whats an MVC2?
I hope you’re around the scene long enough to be proven wrong for this post. For somebody who claims to be the “Godfather” saying something as negative as “you suck and … will never be good” is pretty sad.
I guess we could say the same thing to current CvS2 talk, or even 3S talk. . . Since when has ANY canadian come in the money in any game at any US major since Veas at ECC8? That was what, 3-4 years ago? By that kind of logic we all suck at every game and shouldn’t even be talking about it. And you can go on and on about the money matches at EVO East, but the results of the tournament saw no canadians to be in the money. And even worse, put on the world scale with the japs, only Jeff has managed to do well and I didn’t see him placing at SBO 
So essentially, our best at 3S are only as good as the upper-mid tier Jap players if we’re lucky, so why trash on the marvel guys and not the rest? And lets not even start with our CvS2 scene. . .
This local rivalry is what matters, because without it what’s the point? With the amount of competition we have its a miracle we even have this much trash talking going on. Putting our scene in the perspective of the global scene is stupid, unless your goal is to put out the local flame. . . Sorry, I just don’t get how you of all people could use THAT point to try to stop a flame war.
Basically, my point is that if I wanted to challenge cyrus to a first to 5 for 20 dollars in 3S it means just as much as those guys trashing each other in marvel and just as much as me challenging bry to a 100 dollar money match in marvel. What’s the difference so long as its activity in the scene? Why downplay the less experienced players? Pretty stupid. . .
pistols at dawn
this post was godly …the one hour and 40 minutes spent typing this with a ps3 controller was worth it.
Melty Blood 2: Act of Bloodshed.
I think I placed at some Philly tournament and someone did call me God at cvs2 at said tourney as well.
Therefore: I am a beast.
i have beaten jay, so by default, I beast harder.
and i have beaten noodleman, so i beast the hardest.
I was way past my prime.
I hope I’m around long enough to see it happen to but the reality is I won’t be and they won’t be. I tell them the suck in the same vain I say that I suck at Marvel/3S/Guilty Gear/Tekken/fill in the blank. I could walk into an arcade and beat all the scrubs. I could beat a good portion of people who know what they’re doing. I don’t delude myself into thinking I’m good at those particular games though. I especially don’t get bent out of shape when someone tells me I’m shit at it. I can’t even count how many times I’ve been told I’m a bad CvS2 player despite playing it “well” for years upon years. I can’t speak for Rising Player because I don’t know him but Alex has been a student of the competitive scene for a while and he knows what I’m talking about it’s a put down, it’s just the reality of it. I wouldn’t be so naive as to say he sucks at Accent Core. If he wants to get better at Marvel, all the power to him. I don’t think he’ll put in the time and energy necessary to get it done and stick by what I said.
You’re comparing top 3 to the rest of the field, which quite frankly is a joke. Do you dismiss all the insanely good players who consistently place top 5 in their monthlies. Do the guys like Demon Hyo or Smoothviper suck because they take a money back seat to Justin, Sanford, and Yipes? Get that shit out of here. A fair assessment would be where have Canadian players placed in US majors ATTENDED (going into the US isn’t down the street no more than getting US players up here for T8 is).
ECC9 CvS2
Veasna - 3rd
JS Master - 4th
Ratio1beatdown - 7th
ECC9 3S
JS Master - 13th (this one is really interesting because Eric was just learning the game)
ECCX CvS2
Ratio1beatdown - 5th
ECCX 3S
C Royd - 4th
DarkDragon - 13th
MWC2K5
C Royd - 3rd
AneurysmX - 4th
ECCXI CvS2
Nagata Lock II - 7th
Jiggabry - 9th
ECCXI 3S
RPGv2 - 13th (Entered for shits and giggles)
EVO East 2007 3S
Jiggabry - 5th
AneurysmX - 7th
Now for those of you reading, the minimum entry for any of the above mentioned tournaments was 80. That eclipses any of the T Tournaments and we all know what kind of treacherous time it is getting through those brackets. You Gerjay have no right to belittle anyone’s placing in a US Major just because they didn’t cash in it. I didn’t even cover EVO2K5 World where we had players coming top 16 amidst an International field of hundreds. You’ve managed to choke coming 17th three times in CvS2 when you gave a damn (and you were GOOD at the time) and have a brutal reputation of losing to US players in MvC2 (a game you’ve been playing since it started and have never given up on) that we all know you’re capable of beating. Those people I mention above pushed through and placed well. Talking down about players just because they didn’t cash is disgusting.
The only actual results to base that comparison off of in a tournament attended by more than 1 person is Evolution World 2006. The results are not hard to find. Many Canadian players placed very well and above high level Japanese competition. Your comparsion has no merit and is frankly a giant leap of faith.
It’s dead, what is there to talk about?
You’re jumping all over the place. I didn’t dog our local scene. You had two poor Marvel players on a collision course to what looked like an ugly altercation for no good reason. If RP talked shit on Alex GG game, he’d have something to get upset about. But marvel? Are you joking? Alex beef was over the fact he saw a guy he deemed lower in the pecking order of the scene talking shit and wanted to settle up. If I made the same log and talked the same shit he wouldn’t have done jack shit about it. He probably would have laughed it off or been like “fucking Nagata Lock, talking shit again.”
I don’t even know where you’re going with the Money Match analogies. Activity in the scene and two people crying over nothing are not the same thing. If you hope to foster further development of your Marvel scene with that kind of behaviour, more power to you. I’d love to see how you’re going to pull that one together. You know what makes good players? Ones that can take a beating, learn from it, and keep pushing through. If they can’t take a little smack down from some old guy who just happened to run things for a few years they’re in the wrong scene.
As for you, you can take the holier than thou attitude out the door. I can’t even count how many times you’ve told people they’re trash over the years and now you want to take up an arguement over it? Give me a break…
How many credits did you get for that post?
he got 3 cuz thats the number of good 3s players in toronto.
Oh shit.
Ninja edit: He got ~100 credits for that. 
First of all, no need to go bashing my success at tournaments in responding to your own attack on newer players. How does setting new flames fix the older ones (screw fighting fire with fire. . .)? I place bad in majors, we all know its my own fault, but how does that bear into your argument at all?
Who are you to pass judgment though? You say I’m the one who takes the ‘holier than thou’, I may say someone sucks, but I wouldn’t say someone would NEVER be good. Who am I to say something like that?
I sad that to strengthen the point, but I guess it didn’t. While you’re off dismissing demon hyo and smoothviper I think you missed the facts. Both Demon Hyo and smooth viper find their way into the top when sanford/yipes don’t do as good as they’re expected to do. Smoothviper came 3rd at evo vegas, and I don’t see how you’re putting him on the backburner. And demon hyo was the one who eliminated sanford. . . I’m not saying only top 3 matters, as wong is the only player in existence who always seems to come in the money. What I am saying is that the other two spots are filled by a select few, the players that I don’t think Canada can compare to unless something insane happens, but everything else is up for grabs. This is why I chose this as a standard for comparison, because we all know that bry is capable of taking on everybody who has never placed in the money and I’m sure you would bet on him over each one of them.
If you understand that point, then it should be clear why I chose that as a standard by which to compare our skill in other games, because I saw that you singled out marvel. How much better are we in the other games on a global scale? If Bry can take on everybody outside of say the top 10 in the WORLD, then why can’t I apply the same standard to the other games? Do we really have people that stand a good chance against the VERY best players?
The comparison I made and the standard I set was to discredit this point. You came here essentially saying our marvel scene is garbage (which it is compared to NY or Cal). The whole point of me going on like that is to point out how delusional you’d have to be to not say the same thing about all the other games. I was in no way trying to say that our scene is trash, but I’m saying how outrageous your point was by likening it to the other games. Saying “We’re all shit at marvel” when we have at least one player who can compete with everybody who isn’t at the very top means a lot. I don’t think I’ll ever see the words “we’re all shit at 3S” come out of your mouth, but in reality, do we have a player that is top 10 in the world? That is why your post made me respond the way I did. Why bash marvel when we have a great scene? Just because Canadian 3S isn’t far off from American 3S doesn’t mean we are on an international level yet, which to me puts us in the same boat as we are in marvel.
I would NEVER disregard the high placings of canadians at majors. I haven’t been able to do it, and I know how much work it is, probably better than most people. . . I put the placings into perspective in an attempt to show how insane it is to run around saying that our marvel scene sucks when on a global scale its probably one of the best. . . As is TO 3S and OG MTL CvS2. However, not once has a canadian gone as far on a global scale as Ack in 3S or bry in MvC2. They’re really the only players to test themselves and have done well against the absolute top in their games.
My point is not to say that canadian’s suck. In fact you were the one to say that. My only goal was to show you how outrageous it is to say what you said when its pretty clear that US majors are only a true judge of marvel skill, since the top play for the other games is found on the other side of the globe. . . (This assumes that I’m comparing to the standard that you did… saying our best player is only upper-mid tier, when I know you’d bet him over ANYBODY who hasn’t placed in the money at a major the past two years.)
Why exactly are they crying over nothing? Is it because they suck at a game the country apparently sucks in? If they are meant to be good players eventually, their activity will force them to improve in the game.
Your response was what struck me in the first place, you belittled the entire marvel scene before telling them they aren’t allowed to argue because they’re scrubs. I could care less about you calling them scrubs, but putting two new players into the global scale is stupid, and is why I tried to put our country into perspective to show you how stupid it is to do it. That kind of trash talk is counter-productive imo, which is why I sought to attack it with a sarcastic response. Unfortunately that tone didn’t come across, so you thought I was simply saying everybody sucked. . .
What’s that? I know it would hit a nerve if back in the day somebody straight up claimed our scene sucked at CvS2 back when you were the godfather and the scene was active. I know you put a lot of time into the CvS2 scene back in the day, because I was there, but I’ve put even more into the marvel scene and that comes off as a direct insult to me just as it would be if I told you we all sucked at CvS2 years ago. Just so you’re crystal as to my reasons for attacking this one statement so much and why I’m shocked it would come from you of all people.
BTW, I’ll be at funland today if anybody wants to play.
What time?
I will be at FL today. 10:47 - 10:53 in the PM. Be there.
No funland for me today. I had lab at 8am. Need sleep. I’ll probably be at funland on thursday some time after 5.
oh yea and JS Master and antoine won 3s in TGA… on top of dat JS Master and roger won MvC2 in the same tourney as well.
IN ADDITION to dat JS Master never lost one single money match last evo east. Dis is up against scrubs like exodus, shinshay, team hate. (for more info, plz watch the vids on preppy’s site :wgrin:)
does dis mean i’ve just proved gerjay wrong about we suck at 3s? OR JS Master is just tooooooooo fucken good?
PS. for those who didn’t know, i won Ottawa too. :wgrin:
On the scale of active marvel players, we are not good at marvel =[
we used to be top tier at CvS2 until noodlenoob got good. Then everyone quit.