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wut?
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Rogue > Psy in general? Not unless your vdo or vegita-x or something… and even then… a psy with enough skill still has the advantage. You could call it pretty even… but the time when psy shines IS AFTER SHES THE ONLY ONE LEFT… she’s got pretty much every tool in the book cept an air dash.
Oh yeah… and rogues dive kick (very very important to her game) is pretty much beat out right by psy AA… which of course means xx butterflies… and now rogue is in trouble… …psy doesn’t have to “come get you” and she shouldn’t “be nervous”… she can hang around safely throwing butterflies… and saving her third airjump to ensure you never get near her… and then she can she rush down pretty damn quick soon as you whiff something or make a mistake.
I however would start rogue… rogue/storm/mags… mags proj assist does help lockdown for rogues rush game… and storm does provide a safe DHC out at any time rogue needs it. Your notion of rogue being left last? Not good really… I’d rather have storm or mags left any day.
Lookin at yer combos… I can tell some aren’t gonna work very well w/out even trying them… They seem more designed to work in theory than to work…
Okay, okay…I see I touched a soft spot for Psylocke.
Let me break it down a bit, for my reasons for taking Rogue over Psylocke. First of all, I play MSP, so shes not being replaced with Rogue, psst…
All the “advantages” you guys mentioned for Psylocke over Rogue, are kinda useless. Having tri-jump, doesnt mean anything, just means shes jumping around, RUNNING FROM ROGUE. Thats one advantage shot down…
The second “advantage” Psylocke has is uhh…well…you guys said she can zone with projectiles…WOW!!!, thats really beneficial. “Look, I can throw projectiles, and make you nervous…” Yeah, thats really beneficial against a GOOD Rogue!! (I think thats where you guys are getting confused at)
The next advantage I believe was something about Psylocke rushing with safety (against ROGUE, by the way…)? I doubt it, Psylocke would have to take more risk, cause shes not as strong, and doesnt have powerful combos like Rogue. AND, she would be apprehensive to rush, fearing Rogue grab//speed up. Thats too obvious…So, where does that leave the match?
Like what beats said, having Psylocke stay aerial, triple jumping, throwing psi-blasts all over the place, RUNNING FOR HER LIFE AGAINST A HEAVY HITTER LIKE ROGUE!!! Of course, he said that was her “advantages” against Rogue (LOL). Its not really a advantage, if there is nothing that is benefited from it. Thats so obvious, Im suprised you guys didnt look into the match-up more carefully. You have this liking of Psylocke, because of her Magz work, but her by herself against a solid character (powerful at that, speed-up w/semi-infinite, cancel into Sugar, speed ups again…) isnt really that close.
And for the 5fierce, you guys havent 5fierced into add+lk, infinite(where you quickly land after hk, sj, then add+lk)? Or 5fierced into grav tempest or shockwave?
WOW!!! I guess you guys arent as good as I thought you were…
But, this isnt gonna turn into the old 9 again, I think that may be the issue here. I’ll continue to give advice, and help those who are coming up. Jimmy1200 was the only one who noticed that I wasnt saying replace her with Rogue. He stated his opinion about the team, and even offered several combinations. He disagreed with that line-up (even though this topic was started on Rogue/Storm/Magneto COMBINATIONS!!!, NOT AN ACTUAL TEAM TO RUN IN TOURNEYS OR SOMETHING) So, get what you want out of the post, and state your opinions. I’ll see who is really interested, and who is just farting all over the place, stinking up positive discussion.
I didnt mention the throw assist, because it was based on her air-dash w/Magneto or Storm. Plus, while Rogue throw is okay, there’s more you can do with her air-dash, hence what you actually mentioned with Magneto, jeez…
Are you guys…wait…no, nah, I didnt mention it because it was specifically for the ROMs and Storm juggle combos.
WOW, okay…thats really sarcastic…or is it? IDK…
Thats the same thing I put. What did you think I meant by it all? I just put Storm, in the middle of the combo list, so I wont have to explain all of that you just wrote.
I figure people with common sense will know what I mean when I put Storm, then the rest. pssst…
If youre pretty good, then you’ll know automatically what is being listed. Nobody has time to put xx/sj//xx/Storm/lk…((()0))#$%^><, grav tempest or shockwave. The person reading doesnt want to strain their attention span reading biographies on how to execute a move.
WOW, okay…thats really sarcastic…or is it? IDK…
Thats the same thing I put. What did you think I meant by it all? I just put Storm, in the middle of the combo list, so I wont have to explain all of that you just wrote.
I figure people with common sense will know what I mean when I put Storm, then the rest. pssst…
If youre pretty smart, then you’ll know what is being listed. Nobody has time to put xx/sj//xx/Storm/lk…((()0))#$%^><, grav tempest or shockwave. The person reading doesnt want to strain their attention span reading biographies on how to execute a move.
omg…9revolta. you suck. I’m sorry. you stay in your basement and keep your “strategy” on this game to yourself. good thing for you that you don’t go to tourneys with good people.
now only did you not give any valid points for rogue, you “shot down” all the useful knowledge/points about psylocke with pure dumbass shit.
I swear…
you know nothing about this game/psylocke/rogue if you equated what was said about psylocke into that crap in your post
did you even read some of what we hinted about psy’s different tools? clearly not…you are a big scrub…
we need a sticky thread telling the new players to avoid 9revolta’s “advice” like the plague…at least everyone and anyone who is at least somewhat decent at this game knows 9revolta’s knowledge is flawed…but the newcomers need protection
Okay, see…what makes your post a flame-bait, is the fact that youve read my post since my return, and have seen a good player. Im sure youve went through character specific, and seen my advice, but continue to provoke. I ignored Psylocke’s advantages? Youre confused and lost, cause the debate was about Psylocke vs Rogue endgame (VERSUS, NOT IN THE SENSE OF CHOOSING BETWEEN THE TWO ENDGAME). You guys just shadow-talked around the subject, mentioning her advantages in general, when it was about the match-up between Rogue and her. I looked at all of the “advantages” against Rogue, and completely destroyed it. Shes okay, but Rogue would beat the living daylights outta Psylocke. I dont know why I continue to respond to you, I think its because youre trying to insult me in here, so I cant let you do that. Look at all the post Ive had, and its all gravy. Idiots are able to provoke…hmmmm, thats seems ironic, thats what I was doing to you.
If your goal is to provoke me into permanent banishment, then its not gonna work. If I was banned, then there would people who couldnt benefit from my advice, since they cant look to others to help them out…pssst
so yeah, good players (or just saying players who AREN’T 9revolta is the same thing) what about that sticky. no one should be getting advice from dumb as a rock revolta
try replacing rogue with psylocke.
starting with magneto is good because of double snap chances.
storm would be good in second position becuase of dhc properties.
Hmmmm, I think I’ll report you to the mods. Thats called an insult, you know that, huh?
Listen…wait a minute. To settle this whole deal, give me your MSP strats.
I want to see if they compare to mine. Dont run away, because, this is a chance for you to make me look like a scrub for real. Note: If you dont mention it, then I’ll know for sure youre provoking, which can lead to your demise…
If theyre basically the same, then we’re even. If theyre overwhelmingly in your favor, then I concede defeat. How about that?
Showdown…
I played that team a bit and its okay DHC’s hurt pretty bad.
I.e. GNS>Tempest>Hailstorm
Lightning Storm>GNS>Tempest
Other things:
rogue on point lk, lk+mag proj., hk^hp, mag hits d.hk, kiss (if you time it right kiss is unblockable)
mag on point cr.lk, cr.hp^hk, ad/df, lk lk s.hk (hits twice) GNS whiff hp otg. GNS
Edit: ooohhh yeah @ revolta you said mags doesnt give rogue a big advantage but it can (to an extent) since you play rogue you know sometimes it hard to choose whether to do big damage or kiss but with the above combo you can do both.
Forgot another combo too rogue cornered…kiss, j.lk, dive kick+call mag proj, mag hits, j.lk, dive kick, kiss/repeating punches/j.hp grab
Thanks Rogueish,
That was the intention of the thread, it wasnt to debate whether Rogue was better than Psylocke. The rest of them just carried a conversation into debating about something that wasnt even really relevant to the topic. I mentioned that MSP players should try Rogue out w/Mag & Storm, and they just went crazy!!! They mentioned all of that stuff, when my intentions was to give advice for people who possibly play that team. As it says in the first post, I mentoned how I was giving advice for Rogue w/Mag & Storm. So, the whole thing just blew up into a useless, waste of breath, conversation about Rogue and Psylocke.
You guys need to take a look at a good member here, he didnt start off complaining about the team, he added to the team.
you need to look at your dumb posts first. you’re the first one to not only go pretty off topic, but give actual bad info. the good players told you that you were wrong, and how. then you ignored everything, and only posted more pointless posts without actually backing anything up.
shut up
the bad thing is that you’re going throughout the whole mvc2 board poisoning it with your “knowledge” (or lack thereof)
Aiiight, this should pretty much shut you up…
**When did I go off-topic? **
beats: “You mentioned how its okay to replace…” ROFL, but D’d (dissapointed)
Youre saying because I mentioned one little aspect, that gives a signal to let the floodgates open up? Excuses will only magnify the excuses…
beats:"crickets…
And how was it bad info?
beats: “You said…” ROFL, but D’d
“Rogue/Storm/Magneto Tactics”, I believe that was the title of the thread, if Im mistaken…ROFL
Where’s the bad info you mentioned?
beats: “You mentioned how you can do a lot of cool combos w/Magneto/Rogue, remember?”
Uhhh, thats what the thread is about? ROFL HARD!!!
So, in conclusion…continue to view my post, so in your mind you’ll know Im good.
L8…
Aiiight, this should pretty much shut you up…
**When did I go off-topic? **
beats: “You mentioned how its okay to replace…” ROFL, but D’d (dissapointed)
Youre saying because I mentioned one little aspect, that gives a signal to let the floodgates open up? Excuses will only magnify the excuses…
beats:"crickets…
And how was it bad info?
beats: “You said…” ROFL, but D’d
“Rogue/Storm/Magneto Tactics”, I believe that was the title of the thread, if Im mistaken…ROFL
Where’s the bad info you mentioned?
beats: “You mentioned how you can do a lot of cool combos w/Magneto/Rogue, remember?”
Uhhh, thats what the thread is about? ROFL HARD!!!
So, in conclusion…continue to view my post, so in your mind you’ll know Im good.
L8…
Hmm, ok, it sounds like you want to do s.hk xx GNS, and have it work? Well, Marvel’s weird, so maybe there’s a part of the game I don’t know about. I’d really like to see a video of that before I buy that one.
Combo’s after the 5 fierce? Isn’t that in flying screen? I woulda thought that with as common as MSP is, that if there was a way to super or go into ROM after the 5 fierce I would have seen it by now. 
Ah, ok, whew. haha, good job man, you totally had me. 
I totally thought you were serious there. Good one.:tup: