I’m not sure why this is in the shitty fighting game thread considering that BDS2 is still the best original portable fighter (despite all its flaws), but this tier list seems pretty accurate. Several characters got hit with stupid nerfs (Chad, Soifon, etc.) while others got huge buffs (namely Hitsugaya). Very few characters can spam fireballs like he can, and being able to land a jab Dragon super of an IAD or diagonal flash step is pretty messed up.
If it’s an anime-based fighting game and it’s not Hokuto no Ken, then it sucks.
It wouldn’t hold up well in its current state as a console or arcade game, but it’s still the best portable fighter that’s not a port. It’s got its flaws (the entire card system, stupid nerfs across the board for some characters, several useless moves, etc.)but I still thought it was a solid fighter. I’m not a fan of the show or manga at all, but I was able to appreciate it for its gameplay.
It’s worth checking out in my opinion. The current DS emulator runs it near-perfectly, but I got enough gameplay out of the first game to warrant me buying the second one shortly after it came out.
How high was Eiji Shinjo ranked in Battle Arena Toshinden 3? Also Kayin, since he practically had the same moves as Eiji.
Bleach Blade Battlers 2 =/= Bleach DS2
http://www.playingzone.com/images/jeux/ps2/bleach-blade-battlers-2nd-ps2-pack.jpg
is the game he’s talking about
I’ve never actually played BDS2, which I should, because I have a DS Flash cart…
And as for HeartNana’s remark of Hinamori seeming better than Orihime, Orihime’s ability to keep Hinamori off her makes that matchup really hard on Hinamori.
That’s pretty much all Orihime has, her zoning game is decent and she’s got that healing stuff in L1 + R1 mode to hold a lead (should she get it). Orihime does garbage for damage, excluding her L1+R1 three bar special. Hinamori however, has almost nothing, she has awful defense, no range to speak of, and she only does mediocre damage at best (in L1+R1). Orihime can beat everyone below her (Except possibly Luppi), but Hinamori can’t beat anyone.
I dunno, Hinamori doing like, Square x3, wall bounce, square X3, instant j.circle or something is decent damage. Plus her Square X3 is a lot safer than most characters, and her air triangle is good for poking, and i believe you can combo from it on it? air square leads into combo, too. But her air Circle is pretty strong overall imo. Obviously she’s my main, and I know she’s nothing special or broke, but I thought she was better than like, dead bottom.
Pretty much everyone has some boss wall combos, so it’s not too surprising Hinamori has a good one. And are you implying that her Square combo is safe on block? Because, I’m pretty sure you can parry it after the first attack of it. And as the people I played with and myself got better at the game, it turned into a pretty 3S situation, spamming your safe shit in and hit confirm supers, because if you got parried, you were gonna get it.
Oh, i didn’t know you could parry it after the first hit. LAAAAAAAAAAME.
That game was already turtly enough, with normal strings being unsafe…wow…:lol:
Thanks for the explanation. 
No problem. You should see what happens in matches of good characters. My friends and I usually played our 1v1’s with three lives, no items, no stages with interactive stuff (Smash Bros. rules?), and it’s just spamming of safe stuff x N. Like, that aerial move Aizen has where he shoots himself, that move is so broke, hit confirm that into his aerial Square, Square x 2, Guard Break (launches), Square x 3 (I think it’s three), Raikoho canceled in to Box. Spamming that air projectile is like ST Akuma level spam.
…you can’t even SELECT Athena or Red Arremer, so it’s kind of a moot point.
Beat 37 opponents in survival mode (athena is 36 and red arremer is 37.) Then at the character select screen highlight genjuro and hold select (R1 for ps2 port) to select athena and highlight then select on tessa for red arremer.
Rise 2: Resurrection (the not-quite as craptastic sequel to Rise of the Robots)
Necroborg has to be at least top tier… Because of that electricity attack(hold back while PPP), it covers everything in front of him up to his own height, he seems to have invincibility frames during it(you can actually use this move to avoid projectiles) and it does quite a bit of damage. Also, the computer can almost be beat completely by spamming this move over and over. Against a human player, who knows… It’s hard to find people who willingly play Rise of the Robots 
The move does have quite a bit of recovery and can’t be cancelled though… Otherwise he could have used his shoryuken to take out anyone trying to jump over it, that would have been real broken
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Hey orochi, isn’t Athena basically unbeatable in SvC? IIRC, all of Athena’s special moves granted her invincibility AND did massive damage.
You bought the PS2 version?
What for?
Athena is impossible to beat with most of the cast but with some high n top tier characters it’s possible and with other godtier characters it’s a piece of cake. Basically If you block her special attacks she’s super vulnerable so you have to turtle against her.
Where in my post does it say I bought the ps2 version? I bought the xbox version and played the shit out of it in 05 at leas ta few thousand matches I still have a lot of the good ones saved. In the xbox port you jsut hold the select button over genjuro or tessa to see athena and red arremer and then any other button to pick them
Doesn’t matter. You bought a console version.
I don’t care about Athena, or RA. Can’t remember if SA was selectable in arcade.
I do know that Goenitz can’t tackle Zero/Geese anyway. So your list is still faulty.
Is there a tier list for new challengers? I’m just curious to what it is.
The problem with Goenitz is that it takes a while to kill and if someone gets in (you use the wrong tornado or guess wrong) it gets very tough. Yeah hes got the teleport but by the time you recover and get back into position the opp can still rush you down. He has a beastly exceed, THE BEST zoning, and nice escapes but cannot handle rushdown very well or deal damage (besides exceed). After 30 seconds of constant goenitz zoning, geese and zero can match that damage or do more in one combo.
I still love Goenitz. Easily my favorite character. Just too bad ass really.
I wish I could play this game still.
Ive never played RA or Athena… what do they have going for them?