I remember beating Row, Jmar, Cody before a tournament once with Dhalsim =P…
… then I faced random team scrub and got raped by CapCom assist… =x
… fortunately I fight better vs. CapCom with Sim now =D.
I would put Sim higher than IM for sure. in fact, I would put him with or over Cable… then again, this is me… I need some matches on tape that aren’t over 2 years old, then maybe I’ll make some believers? =o
One thing about Sim, though… he is a BITCH to learn compared to any of the accepted god tier… if you want to play Sim well, you will be putting in a DAMN lot of time.
U got a point, Mixah, but I am not able to train with her nor get in real matches since I got no DC or matches in like 2 months or so…, but I will show u some new stuf… just not now =)… and ya… she can infiltrate charlie =).
Magnetro wants to make a Dhalsim vid with me extending past the DVDs, but I’m #1 kinda busy as my girlfriend is flying up Tuesday to see me for a month, and this is my last quarter before I graduate… also my capture card sucks compared to his, so he endds up recapping everything anyway, so I’m basically just sending him stuff to capture… I’m not sure when he’ll finish what is ultimately an extension to the previous DVDs.
I’ll be playing a friend who’s decent anyway (plays MSP mainly, and some others) either this Thursday or Tues or Thurs of next week. I’ll try and capture some of those matches and I’ll have Zach put them up afterwards. =)
all these mvc2 tier threads are too biased and always will be.
why are you guys arguing trivial stuff such strider and spiral being better than iron man?
of course all iron man players will say hes better and vice versa. then we have sim, bh, cyclops players also claiming hes better than iron man.
i’ll say this tho:
strider is the best point character out of the bunch but he doesnt do shit for the team. once one of his team mates die, the whole team falls apart.
iron man might have more trouble fighting the top tiers than strider/doom, spiral and even cyke some times but all he needs is one hit from anywhere to win the match. also, he has a great assist for sentinel and a godly DHC.
spiral has a weaker trap than strider/doom but she is easily the best battery in the game. she is also more flexible than strider in terms of team building. also, she has a better assist than strider.
bh sucks. however you have to respect bh to beat bh. he top tier back in the days for a reason and not only because of his assist.
dhalsim has some good runaway but his priority is shot down from the other incarnations hes in.
cyclops has a good assist and good priority on point. good priority is not enough to win him matches. mob is a shitty super. too much startup, too much recovery. maybe if he had the instant xvsf version that did 50% life and no recovery, he’ll be better and also if he could buffer his optic bullets like back then
i have a question, where do psylock capcom and tron rank on point. Right now they are right below the ironman/c/s/d/b/s tier and right above the mid tier that starts with cammy i think.
where do they stand not takin into account their assist, or in other words just on point cuz i know they r so high cuz of their assist
Based on the fact that drills play a bigger part with those other incarnations right?
i dont see that as weakness when he has plenty of other things to cancel into including other drills.
MVC2 Sim’s ability to control and vary the angle and timing of attack is his strongest attribute, not runaway.
I get alot of advantages with Sim that are similar to Strider and Spiral. Catching people with priority normals like strider and making them pay if they get caught on the ground, better then landing fp and throwing knives with spiral in terms of damage and space control, mabey equal to the amount of time controlled.
i’m not only talking about the drills. but the drill did gave him better offensive options than he has right now.
and i’m talking about his normals in general, they come out slower in this game than most of the other games hes in. if his pokes had better priority like his ST or A3 form, he’ll be a better character.
hes like a weak sentinel. he has the range like sentinel but the priority isnt there. with spiral.
all of the top tiers and more can vary the angle and timing of their attack better than him. sentinel’s flight mode covers all pretty much all angles, unfly and especially refly mode changes the timings of his attacks. everyone knows storm float can change her decent and even timing of her triangle jumps. i can go on and on but i’ll stop.
sorry, theres no way he can control space better than spiral. because first of all, he needs to get a hit in, second of all, he cant bait and avoid assists nearly as well as her. as soon as he sticks out a limb, he better hope that his opponent didnt call out an assist earlier, or else hes gonna get stuffed.
I cant disagree with you too much when you compare him to god tiers. Regaurding spiral, your right but…its not that difficult to land a hit with Sim.
Sent is not too strong for Sim to handle. for the most part Hit stun on Sim’s normals> Sent super armor. SJ air dashing lk is too fast, especially on a big target. Air fp beats out rocket punch among other things.
In regaurds to looking out for assists, thats part of the game…
Sticking a limb out is definetly not free damage for them.
whats your point? you are just listing a bunch of options he have and most of them arent even that good. he can stay in the air longer than her, but no, his runaway is not better than storms
-its not difficult to land hits with other characters too, in fact, it might be easier.
-sentinel’s normal >>>>>>>>>> sims normals, any capable sentinel should be able to deal with triangle jumping lks by now, especially since hes one of the few characters that has super armor. air fp might beat out rocket punches but since when did rocket punches became the bulk of his game? unless its sentinel vs sentinel or in combos, rocket punches arent even used that much.
-you can “beast” with a lot of characters in the game too.
and you do realize that even though sprites remain the same, speed, hitboxes, recovery and priority do change right?
Dhalsim normals are not a weakness. Simple. his priority is more a strength then a weakness. Air fp is an example of something that I use that doesnt get beat very often. Rocket punches are relevant in the fight vs sent, because sents use them…fuckin A. That IS relevant because it is an easy to understand example of a normals beating out something with alot of priority.
You said:
*Capable sentinels should be able to deal with lk tri jumps? * good.
You can beast with lots of characters in the game too? * This statement not only cancels out the statement above, because you were not applying the same overgeneralization to yourself, it also raises questions like…
Do you have relevant a point?
Can you actually prove Sim is weak instead of saying bullshit like…
as soon as he sticks out a limb, he better hope that his opponent didnt call out an assist earlier, or else hes gonna get stuffed. *
When you are saying correct things, i give you the benefit of the doubt like a shining gracious king. This was wrong of me because your statements are mostly out of context.