deadpool’s assist only works for me when people are on the air. But it is the assist i use… should dante be in his AAA assist also? I tried putting dante in his Y assist just for a rushdown backing assist… it’s alright but not as powerful as his AAA… it would be redundant to have 3 AAA’s IMO…
Jam Session is way more than an anti air for Zero. It’s everything.
Lightning Legs right? After seeing/playing around as Wesker/Chun I was thinking about making Zero/Chun work as well. I suppose I’ll just have to decide on my 3rd.
Any zero/doom hidden missles players?
thanks for the suggestions. I’ll definitely get to it.
Anyway, my original (Zero/sent/haggar) is actually very strong… it’s practically an MVC2-ISH like of a mentality, with a good close combat fighting assist to an assist that gets you in.
Haggar does set up a few things for zero, sometimes free lvl 3’s also… but the main thing about haggar’s assist is that it does so well in protecting zero from other rushdown rivals such as wolvies, she hulks, weskers, and just anybody. It provides also a good lockdown where you can dash-port to the other side when the opponent blocks haggar, giving you an opportunity to mix up. And Sentinel/haggar is just so powerful imo… it’s like Sent/Cyke but a bit easier. The only thing with this team is that it’s greatest strength (haggar) is also my greatest weakness. I am totally way to dependent on Sent/Haggar in order to compete… it’s like i got too used to the strat that i can’t adjust away from it. I’ve gotten the timing of placing haggars assist, and also a bit of style play with it that it becomes like Sent/Haggar is the main threat of the team. If both my point and sent go down, haggar is left. He sucks alone, and i don’t want to put him on screen because i need that damn assist.
I’ve joined the dark side - Dante/Zero/Akuma (well maybe the diet dark side… I didn’t go all the way and pick up wolvie/phoenix).
My experiment with Ammy was short lived; her assist is good but can’t reliably cover your approach like Doom and Akuma. Akuma’s assist is so much faster than Doom’s too and serves the same purpose, and Akuma is a much better anchor. I thought one of the regulars around here played this team too but I can’t remember who it was. Akuma is kinda silly too…I’m hitting 1.1mil combos with no xfactor, and although I know Akuma is capable of even more - this is without even looking up anything whatsoever on Akuma.
Also I know in general Zero’s best place is on point but I really think Dante/Zero is a better order. Dante is a (slightly) better character and you get access to the DHC glitch, and with Zero’s (or anyone’s) AA assist backing him Dante becomes a much better character. Really though they are interchangeable; both of them are good as 1st or 2nd. Part of why I run Zero 2nd though is because he’s my favorite character and I get a little disheartened if he dies early.
As far as Dante/ Zero order goes I’d put whoever I’m more comfortable with on point JUST BECAUSE if I run Zero on point I’ve still landed the DHC glitch tonnes of times in these past few days thanks to TAC. Easiest is just TAC into Dante, air series end with Sky Dance xx Reverb Shock xx Crazy Dance > Either Hyper > DHC into Sougenmu.
I just don’t feel comfortable with Dante right now so being able to start and end with Zero like that’s really helpful especially since you only need to build 2 meters which a bit of Dante’s combo and most of Zero’s will do anyway which makes the direction of the TAC all that less important.
I’ve been thinking of trying out Akuma again too in place of Doom, after seeing what I’ve been missing out on with Jam Session assist and doing so much more with assists I think Akuma’s will work out much better especially with the mixup. Doom’s is becoming too slow for my liking, though I still hold him in high regard as a great anchor. But beam hypers > beam assists nearly everytime.
Picking Akuma-b assist is not going to the dark side, I would care a million times more if somebody was using Tron-b or Haggar-a assist. And Ammy assist is a pressure and hold in place assist, not an assist to get in.
If you were going to play Zero/Dante/Ammy (like I am), use Dante to cover your weak points, and Ammy only to apply pressure when close.
How exactly does Zero work with Haggar though? I’ve been having some trouble with Trish X Haggar because I can’t follow up too easily off a double Lariat because of lack of viable OTG, and I was imagining it would be the same with Zero. The main thing about Haggar is you have ages to confirm because of the hard knockdown, not sure running him with someone w/o otg is the best thing. I could see Tron working better for Zero.
Your last sentence is some what true, but not if you’ve gotten used to haggar. Haggar is more of an assist for protection, and lockdown than set ups. But you can set up air fireballs, or Raikousen. Haggar’s not going to go Psylocke for you, that’s for sure… i don’t use him to set up my combos but just to open the opponent and also prevent me from getting killed.
are there any good vids of Zero/Deadpool/Dante at work? Or even Zero/X-23 (x23/zero)?
changed to magneto/zero/dante, is a lot more stronger than zero/dante/magneto, jam sesion is godlike for magneto and dante is a better anchor than him
Just got back from my Tuesday night fights (lol), i play marvel every tuesday. I’ve experimented with other Zero/Sent teams. Doom and Ironman -(ruplsar blast) did very well with zero. I tried doom on his Y assist, i think there are some things that are useful with that. Both of them are highly different from their MVC2 version so it’s a bit of getting use to.
Unfortunately, i can’t break out of my Haggar dependency. I really need to learn how to fight with out a haggar assist. I’ve done very well with Zero/Sent/Haggar still. Haggar does not set up stuff well for zero, but he gives such great lockdown ability and defense against good rush and zoners. And Sent/Haggar (imo) is one of the best duo’s in the game. It’s just so dangerous. Hopefully i’ll be able to break away the haggar out of my skill, because damn haggar sucks when he’s left alone. I may still stick with Zero/Haggar if i can discover something.
Weasel Shot > Jam Session for Zero. Yeah I said it >:3
OH NO YOU DIDN’T (Ghetto Face)
Saying things doesn’t make them true.
You guys think Zero Dante Phoenix would be any good? I’m debating trying it out. Also Zero Dante Doom or Task.
Still like Zero Dorm Dante but having a full screen projectile to get in is really useful .
Zero Dorm Dante would be godlike if I didn’t have a problem with how slow Dorm’s assists all come out and yeah the lack of fullscreen projectile =/
Zero and Dorm are both easily my best chars and it worked pretty well as Zero/ Doom/ Dorm (or Zero/Dorm/Doom depending on the matchup). But you completely miss out on quick and dirty mixups like you get with Akuma Tatsu assist and Dante’s Jam Session.
Yeah but I feel like in close you atleast have Dante covering the quick mixups portion, so it’s not such a big deal. Dorm’s assist really isn’t anything to write home about… it kinda works, kinda. But Dante covers all of it’s bases a bit better. Dorm’s real strength with Zero is the Rekkoha > Stalking Flare DHC. Does an assload of damage and you can setup unblockables behind the ball if they die before all the hits. Generally this gets Zero about to about 900K on any random hit so it’s pretty nice, but it does limit Zero’s full screen approach a bit more so you have to rely on buster. Still, Dorm with Dante behind him is fucking amazing so it’s not over at all if Zero happens to die. He’s just the body guard to something scarier lol.
Which assist do you guys think is best for covering Zero from full screen? I would go with Sentinel but people are learning to deal with that assist more and more and I feel like it’s pretty easy to shut down, so Doom and Task seem like they might be the next best up there (I would put Iron Man Unibeam but fuck that character as anchor lol)
If you tend to approach from the air, fullscreen task vertical shot is ridiculous. In sheer damage it’s nothing but it prevents others from constantly flying about and has great screen coverage that’s much faster than hidden missiles. A lot of people consider it a terrible assist but for Thor or anyone that likes to get in from the air it’s pretty damn good IMO.