a2 gief. spd is really really good. he probably has the most effective cc in the game (sans 2p e.ryu)cuz of his far c.rh. with that, he can effectively cc a half screen away and score the knockdown and banishing fist x N, then end in ppp lariat, for ridiculous damage. his air to air game is strong as well. decent ac’s.
yes he dies to sodom s.fierce, but that doesnt mean he should be ranked in the same tier as him.
if akuma could reliably do rolls without accidental red fireballs, hed be much better. his other big problem is DP. his dp isnt anywhere near as effective as ryu/ken, especially strong DP. really slow release air fireball isnt all too effective IMO. still a good character nonetheless
Hahaha, cool, didn’t think Gief was that beastly, saw Valle use him a couple of times, but didn’t know he was considered that good. Now that I hear that, I’ll mess around with him a bit as well. This game is really fun, all because those CC’s are just madness in this game. My few problems that I have now is that when they throw out whiffed attacks, like say a c.fk with Ken…I’ll activate my CC…try to stuff it…but I’ll get hit by their c.fk instead.
Shit gets kind of a annoying after awhile…thanks for the tip on Ryu though, I had assumed that Ken Shoryu>Ryu Shoryu because of more hits and better damage, but yeah.
just wait to punish. I punish whiffed attacks all the time with chun CC. Just wait then activate and walk in and hit their vulnerable frames. You can punish whiffed dps from practically full screen like that.
problem solved. the combo: crouching short-> crouching jab-> forward hurricane kick (2 hits)-> activate cc-> whiffed standing short (you should barely see this animate - it’s mainly used as a timing tool)-> short hurricane kick-> fierce shakunetsu hadouken x n. crouching strong-> crouching forward-> roundhouse hurricane kick (2 hits) is possible too, i think.
Today’s Tiers (IMO from experience in GGPO)
1st: Chun, Ken, Rose, Gief
2nd: E. Ryu, Ryu, Akuma, Sakura, Rolento, Charlie, Sagat
3rd: Sodom, Bison, Guy, Sim, Adon,
4th: Gen, Dan, Birdie
A2 is more balanced than A3. I don’t give a fuck what other people think. More than half the cast can win in high level tourney play (tiers 1 and 2). e.g. Valle won tourneys with a shitload of these charactters - perhaps he just won cause he’s inherently better, but against guys like Choi and the OGs?
sagat might be a tad better now that i think of it. his K AC is godlike and his lvl 1 CC is 50% easy. his tiger raid is safe if i recall correctly. his supers are pretty decent overall. his normals especially jumping rk / fk is good. his tigers suck outside of CCs, but that’s ok.
rose might go up (because even though her ac is awesome, now you cant AC the friends hk drill chip), sim might go up a little bit, ken might go down a little bit…wouldn’t change the game TOO much.
why would you ask such a retarded question? a2 has CCs and it’s one of the most important things to master in the game. almost every character has good CCs (except bison, gen), it’s just some are slightly better - e.g. character specific advantages like infinite blow out range, 50%+ lvl ones, ease of valle CC, etc.
