yes but people cant even post an opinion about KOF thats sad. You must really hate KOF. Maybe if people bitch and complain about capcom fighters they should play something else maybe they never thought about that.
“vortex” can actually be a useful term, because I thought it was dumb as hell when I first heard it, too.
It’s more than just “some mixups”, because everybody in the game can do some mixup on a knocked down opponent, but not everybody has a set of mixups that on success lead directly back to the same set of mixups outside of the corner.
“footsies” is a nebulous term. That does mean it gets abused because it contains so many meanings, but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t useful. Try “composition” in photography.
your an idiot, I never said more the 4 characters can win. 2nd everyone knows why there is a god tier list, you sound like a fucking moron. Did I ever fucking say that game was 1 on 1? god are you that fucking stupid? Do I really have to explain the odds of anyone on the tier list vs god tiers and there chances of winning vs those god tiers? Do you really need to explain? Really? Fucking stupid ass. Have you ever seen anyone win a major tournament use anyone thats not god tier on point vs a god tier win? Like having Cammy on point vs Sent? Or Cyc on point vs Mag?
You know that term “Yomi?”
Fuck that one.
jasonC
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“Footsies” is a useful term and everyone deep down understands it even if they can’t articulate it. For example, instead of saying “Daigo beat Choi at EVO because he outzoned him, baited crouching medium kick and punished with sweep, baited sweep and punished with sweep, and baited neutral jump over fireball and punished with fadc -> walk forward -> s.hk twice,” I’d rather say, “Daigo beat Choi at EVO because he had better footsies.”
ill give an example. in SFIV the metagame was who can land the ultra most often. if your character couldn’t combo>ultra than they weren’t as good (exception was akuma cause he was just good). so basically anyone who can combo>ultra easily were usually better overall than someone who can’t (note:usually). in SSFIV ultras were tone down quite a bit so while it’s still good to have combo>ultra it’s not as important anymore as it was in SSFIV. SSFIV seems to revolve around who has the best normals.
Not to sound Hitler-esque, but if you see someone using a term like footsies wrong, and you actually know what it is, I think you owe it to the community to correct them. Not being a prick about it, but saying, “Hey, just fyi, footsies is actually THIS…”
That alt.sf2 thing illiterit posted was really interesting reading btw!
I agree with you Docta. But the worst thing about this community is that not many people will like being corrected. If someone does try to correct someone the other person just thinks they are being insulted. I think a lot of people wont correct someone because of that and then there are the people that just dont care, and cant be bothered to take a minute to explain something to someone.
Well, then you have the “smart” guys that will just argue back and forth on who is right and who is a scrub. hehe
i really need to level up my game
dont worry bro, you just didnt born 1000 years earlier
otter
100
you’re comparing apples to oranges, and you’re unsolicited anger makes makes it clear that you know it.
I’m tired of hearing the words “Fighting Game.” This is so abstract and meaningless. It can basically expand to include any type of game where physical combat is involved. So Halo can be included, Super Mario can be included, Castlevania can be included.
But it’s the classification of Brawl as a “Fighting Game,” that sets this over the top as being abstract and meaningless. We should find a more detailed and less broad title for games such as Street Fighter than “Fighting Games.” This will confuse those kids at SWF, and maybe make us look cooler for playing another genre.
Hecatom
102
what are you saying, havent you played MW2 1vs 1 without fire arms, only grenades for the zoning and the knife, im telling you, First Person Fighters at its prime
mIRC
103
What I like, is a fighting game. What I DON"T like, is not a fighting game. 
I agree, Missing Person, but I’m gonna say this and be done with it; on the box each game is titled with their genre, particularly in Japan. Now if you look at any real fighter, you will see “VERSUS FIGHTING” on the box. Smash has “VERSUS ACTION” on the box.
There is no confusion among the genre other than people trying to validate a game they think should be what they want it to be. And when the argument arises they go with the logical fallacy “Dev intent doesn’t matter”.
But yeah, I do see how there is some confusion, when you take the word “fighting” literally and apply it to a video game. Examples like Sengoku 3 or Breakdown.
pherai
105
How do you know deep down everyone understands it?
Based on my time on SRK, people have wildly different understandings of the scope of what footsies covers.
i like how everyones a retard that cant differentiate games based on how they are mechanically designed instead of what the pictures on the screen depict
To me its like
Zoning - macro sense of movement
Footsie - Micro sense.
Characters like guile who are just throwing booms and holding downback don’t need to play footsies, since their zoning game is so strong. but characters like Vega gain almost nothing from holding down back. So when i hear the term, it literally means walking in and out of your longest or most character effective poke baiting an expected action(s), or standing and moving in and out of your opponents best poke(option) waiting to safely poke in your range or attempt to stuff or hit a whiffed opponents attack. Pretty simple. Anything out of that scope is not footsies to me.
jasonC
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Do I give too much credit to everyone? I think they understand it, but they are just calling it the wrong name. A friend of mine, who knew nothing about street fighter, challenged me and said after he lost, “you don’t play like the ppl online, you hardly used any moves; you just beat me with all this punch/kick action.” So even this guy who knows nothing about sf terms can recognize something other than just special moves.
Hecatom
109
your friend has brains
the major part of SRK… not really
