Saitsu
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It’s an airborne sickness with no known origin and a freakish spread rate. The only way the CDC would’ve been on top of it is if they knew the source and made sure the outbreak never started in the first place.
Yeah you’re right, the kid not telling anyone he was sick would do that. However guess what…people do that all the time. Hell, sometimes some people don’t even realize their sick until they’re too late. And we don’t even have to stop at sickness. Remember, ANY freak death starts shit. If someone slips on ice and lands wrong we have a walker. Any bad accident.
Unless technology was quickly developed that let everyone know automatically when someone nearby died it’d be impossible to keep track of every possible death. And one death begets more VERY quickly.
While we are on this subject, let’s not forget that the disease was basically cured by common medicine readily available in most homes. It was made a issue because it broke out long after the world went to shit and they didn’t have medicine readily available.
In real life something like a common cold that infected the prison would be quickly dealt with because Zombies wouldn’t last long enough for people to run out of those basic materials. And yes the CDC would find out rather quickly because those guys take that shit scary seriously. They would block off a whole part of the country or killed infected before letting shit spread.
Anyway none of this matters because any zombies would die off by nature before becoming large enough numbers to destroy even America let alone other countries. This would give scientist plenty of time to find a cure or at the very least find a way to ensure babies are born without it. This would be easy since many diseases aren’t passed down to the children from adults through birth.
Saitsu
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I’m not worried about the kid getting sick and dying. I was just using it as an example of what happens when a freak death happens without any witnesses.
And the CDC would find out quickly…but not quickly enough because again, the zombie disease IS AIRBORNE. There’s no localization effect, there’s no slow burn or build. First there wasn’t a zombie disease, then it was everywhere. I don’t deny that the CDC would likely be a LOT more competent IRL than they would be here, but they couldn’t stop the spread once it’s already out. The only thing they could’ve done is find the potential source and stop it before it ever even happened.
And you’re right, diseases aren’t passed down, but there’s nothing to state that the babies won’t just contract the disease immediately from the air. With no antibodies it’s not going to matter how healthy they are in the womb.
This one is easy. 330 million people can suck up ALOT of air.That same air is converted into carbon dioxide. How do you know those babies will be sucking up the same infected air?
As I’ve explained before, Zombies wouldn’t last long because of so many factors killing them. So in the highly unlikely WORST possible scenario people would make arrangements to be stabbed or shot upon death and the children live on peacefully.
So scary. This is assuming it even gets that far, which it never will.
You did a fine job Sai. I’ve had this debate before and some people just devolve into screaming insults at me with no logic.
Saitsu
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I just really don’t care about this debate enough to continue doing it when it leads nowhere and I know I’d never win.
rcaido
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Thanks for the Maggie pics, we all win! Except for Glen!
I think she looks better with the shorter hair.
Yeah those are plenty of examples to take from but you have got to let him be frustrated at building something. Then just like that, something good he was working towards for a better future crumbles in his hands.
The small tangible thing in his little pig farm getting taken away within 2-4 episodes of time. He still gave it up for “the greater good” of everyone else. Of course not much good that did them in the end with the governor coming back major threat, when people being sick in an entire section of the prison turned into a medical ward wasn’t enough for them to lose the prison.
Nobody really gave a crap to console him for losing something simple like that, thanking him for sacrificing something he enjoyed and wanted to keep going so he doesn’t have to think commando mode, alpha male all the time; if they even all pitched in their time and sympathy to get him out of crazy town after much bigger losses. Not everyone did and just let him walk around in the tall grass, or the dark caverns of the prison first before he found his way out there for the plot. Herschel maybe gave him one or two yards length talks for sake of not dragging the season out like the farm.
For better or worse he is the main character who all of it runs through.
When he says go while getting shit done, people do it. Whether they want to pull and push him 15 different ways and always want more out of him just like the people watching the show, he’s still the best leader and can always get back to where he was and constantly improve.
So now Rick did the best he could? Lol. Ok. Rick was a know it all and between letting Gov live, letting Lori have the baby, not mending the relationship with Shane, not teaching Carl how to be a man sooner…etc
Probably more but my memory is fuzzy.
Michonne is still a cold hearted bitch to me. Everyone lost someone, but shes this brooding, quiet angry cunt. All it took was for her to be alone for a little and realize how much she needed someone else to break some of her walls down. Last week was the first time she seemed even remotely happy about being in the company of someone else. I feel her pain but nah she should have softened up a while back, considering she was a part of a tribe.
Best leader of them.
Gov parked the truck and mowed down everyone
That would’ve been a good idea to go up behind them with their 3 people and 1 gun each? And get their cars torn thru if they even survived. Sorry there was no Mad Max Road Rash budget highway shootout for you.
edit: They even forget their own rules that gunshots attract walkers from miles away - so basically, Carl fucked up in their little cul de sac too.
For all he knew, Gov was gone.
The only lol on this page is the ass butts. Or all the sidetracking about if this were REAL. I had a different response geared up about Rick shouldn’t be 100% aggro and that kinda of person is not a good leader.
rcaido
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Are you really serious? Mending the relationship with Shane? I mean i like his character but damn he was trying to rape his wife, take his son away, & continue to try to kill Rick. Yeah lets mend that w/ handshake.
As for Michonne, did you miss all of season 3/4 first half? Remember her best friend Andrea dying, her lover/brother the whole thing about the governor? She was constantly angry cuz the Governor was still alive & she wanted revenge. Governor finally dies but w/ the prison destroyed, she rages out going Zatoichi on the walkers …Then she finally finds Rick/Carl…
SoVi3t
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I recall that happening in WWZ. People just went where it was cold and remote to live, and in the winter they’d go find frozen zombies and destroy the brain. I was kinda hoping the same would happen in this show.
yeah, that’s how most zombie movies end. I’d like Walking Dead to one up this common trait, if possible. Hell, the worst ending I will accept is somebody is born without the virus in their system. Or an immunity. Then you can end it all traditionally.
I truly feel in real life, we would establish rules to prevent this shit. In movies and TV, nobody seems to even know what a vampire is, or a werewolf, or a zombie. In real life, anybody see’s a dead guy walking up to them, they’d probably think it was a joke or a prank first. But after the first few deaths and dealings, the entire world would know via the internet and word of mouth, and then every human would be fully armed and we’d have some issues with hoarding of food and such. Then people would go out in giant groups, and systematically wipe out every zombie they saw. They would then return home, and be strip searched to guarantee nobody hides bites or scratches. Even a scratch from a tree branch or whatever would lead to a person being temporarily isolated as a precaution. Somebody gets the sniffles or a cough? Isolation.
and for the record, I thought Carl was fucking retarded this episode. Sure, I get the rebellious teen angle, but he seems to carry it a LITTLE too far. And how does he go from being pretty damn brilliant with a gun back at the prison, to suddenly he’s firing like 50 shots at each zombie, and ignoring the fact that noise draws more? I am still wondering who knocked on the door. The way Rick got all excited and said it was for Carl, it better damn well be Beth or somebody for Carl to punish fuck.
Zombie Apocalypse and there’s like only 1 girl your age you get to see sporadically? I wouldn’t even fucking ask.
You know reading through this thread I feel like some of you don’t actually watch this show.
Reason4U
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It’s Michonne knocking goofy. Did you missed the scene where Michonne looked through a window to see Carl and Rick eating and almost broke down in tears in happiness? Did you also missed the scene where she pulls it together and knocks on the door?
Michonne and Carl have a close personal bond and he’s one of the first people she opened up too. Carl is the only reason Rick allowed her to join the group in the first place because he directly told his father she’s a good person. Carl respects and liked Michonne more than anybody left in the group so that’s why Rick said that. It’s why the episode had a happy ending. Carl and Michonne both got what they needed emotionally by being reunited. They’ll draw strength from each other and use as a reason to keep on living and surviving.
Other than that I agree that this show should have a happy ending but I doubt it because everything about the Zombies on this show is completely unrealistic.** I like how humans like Rick, Michonne, Daryll, Carl can trip and fall over but these rotting muscle rotting eyes zombies seem to have perfect fucking balance.** Zombies should be tripping over rocks and sticks in the forest all the damn time, not to mention pot holes and cracks in the street should make them fall over constantly.
lol @ the photoshopped pic of maggie
Just caught the premiere. That zombie had about 3 clean looks on Carl’s legs. Also why was Rick just laying breathing like a zombie?
