OG Dante based on his feats and magical nature is one of the characters I’d put on a short list to 1 up supes
At the end of the day its all for fun but the goal is to really discuss things and have debatables and close calls.
not 2 people sitting in a thread going
Reality warpers make the rules essentially so really you can attach whatever logic you want to their powerset and make a ludicrous out of character argument
Batman is plot armor incarnate you can essentially use the same dumb arguments that you can with reality warpers invent some dumb shit and say with prep batman would have came up with it.
Superman even in his newest incarnation has the best examples of feats of any superhero and if were being honest here things like thought robot, death of superman, all star superman, and the like prove his plot armor is on the same levels of batman. Its just his plot armor turns into feats because it somehow becomes a new power or some shit.
Deathnote and TOAA need no explanation if you know who/what they are
I’m sure more will pop up and we can have crazy discussions about ridiculously OP characters in the following weeks if thats what people want I just kinda hope you see where I’m coming from being happy with the banhammer
I kinda hope we get the rules locked in by tomorrow and teams and participants locked in by friday
I still gotta think of a suitable replacement for supes -_-
@joshkaz since this is in a neutral universe speed force wouldnt come into play I do know for a time though that the flashes did not have access to the speed force so I would look for those scans and see what they are capable of without it (which is still alot iirc)
Jack Rakan owns pretty much any character here, to be brutally honest. How you gonna deal with infinite weapons of any type and size? How you gonna stop a guy who destroyed a universe just through sheer willpower? How you stopping a guy who has hand to hand combat skills so lethal, that it’s considered a form of suicide, to fight him? How you gonna stop a guy who is surrounded by a wall of Ki at all times, making him indestructable, all while also have insane magic power as a backup, in addition to his incredible super strength, and abilities to teleport.
I’m not going to deal with any weapons of any size cause times gonna get frozen and benders gonna turn you into beer
I’d have to see a scan to understand what you mean here, If a universe can just be thought away I’d argue the universe itself is weak or unstable
even without her OP kit I’d put WW as the greatest H2H fighter ever the only character I’d put on that level is Thor. When your raised as a warrior fighting the toughest monsters and other equally skilled warriors for millennia upon millennia. As we all know experience is top dog when it comes to combat knowledge