The Street Fighter V Lounge: We all gotta chill 'til the end of April

Akhos · 2017-02-25T22:19:23.000Z

Flacko_ali:

I wonder what sorta changes [Nash] is gonna get in this patch…

Nash KOs himself if he throws a Sonic Boom.

Marmalade_Jones · 2017-02-25T22:24:31.000Z

Anybody else having problems with the server not updating? I can go on a 6 to 8 game win streak and not gain a point, but as soon as I lose, I lose points.

This is frustrating.

Darklightjg1 · 2017-02-25T22:28:08.000Z

Flacko_ali:

Im not gonna lie Nash is fun to play as and this is coming from a bison player…

I wonder what sorta changes hes gonna get in this patch…

None whatsoever. Still want to play him?

OceanMachine · 2017-02-25T23:03:46.000Z

LordWilliam1234:

I feel like shilling today.

Everyone, post a picture of Rainbow Dash. The one who posts the best one within the next hour will receive either both Xrd: Revelator DLC characters if they own the PC version, or a SFV S2 Character Pass on Steam (the winner will get to choose which one they want).

The clock is ticking.

Too bad I had both. (And I never received a copy of the game or the DLCs when I won last time anyway)

JoeyTones · 2017-02-25T23:05:52.000Z

Darklightjg1:

Flacko_ali:

Im not gonna lie Nash is fun to play as and this is coming from a bison player…

I wonder what sorta changes hes gonna get in this patch…

None whatsoever. Still want to play him?

infil let everyone know “Nash is dead”. He’s def getting some buffs from S2.

HNIC_Mike · 2017-02-25T23:11:14.000Z

Marmalade_Jones:

Anybody else having problems with the server not updating? I can go on a 6 to 8 game win streak and not gain a point, but as soon as I lose, I lose points.

This is frustrating.

Ive been having this issue ever since about a day or two before the maintenance. Just kinda stopped with ranked for now.

AriesWarlock · 2017-02-25T23:18:39.000Z

https://youtu.be/23YUJzeoRFc

Evil_Canadian · 2017-02-25T23:33:11.000Z

AriesWarlock:

https://youtu.be/23YUJzeoRFc

I fully understand the lesson of this video and Vega’s cr.mp needs to be crush counter, I will accept that buff.

BMsirhc1313 · 2017-02-25T23:35:47.000Z

AriesWarlock:

https://youtu.be/23YUJzeoRFc

Rule #1, never question Capcom because Capcom themselves dont know the answer.

AriesWarlock · 2017-02-25T23:37:34.000Z

Evil_Canadian:

AriesWarlock:

https://youtu.be/23YUJzeoRFc

I fully understand the lesson of this video and Vega’s cr.mp needs to be crush counter, I will accept that buff.

amrraed · 2017-02-25T23:40:30.000Z

AriesWarlock:

https://youtu.be/23YUJzeoRFc

The salt in this video is amazing.

The move is retarded but getting huge damage from a simple poke isn’t just a SF5 thing.

Remember lvl 1 focus causing a crumple.
Remember Evil Ryu get 300+ damage or more from a single cr.MK into hadouken block string that was totally safe.
Remember F23 from Injustice?

This shit has been in fighting games forever. Safe long range pokes that lead to damage have always existed in fighting games.

Frost · 2017-02-25T23:54:54.000Z

I’ve had more of my friends on SFIV than I have SFV the past couple days.

Games on it’s biggest dry streak yet, only 3 days to go until my ice queen arrives.

Akhos · 2017-02-25T23:55:42.000Z

Froztey:

I’ve had more of my friends on SFIV than I have SFV the past couple days.

Games on it’s biggest dry streak yet, only 3 days to go until my ice queen arrives.

YOUR Ice Queen? Who said you can claim her? :mad:

Frost · 2017-02-25T23:59:25.000Z

LordWilliam1234:

Froztey:

I’ve had more of my friends on SFIV than I have SFV the past couple days.

Games on it’s biggest dry streak yet, only 3 days to go until my ice queen arrives.

YOUR Ice Queen? Who said you can claim her? :mad:

Twinblades has been trying but I’m the only one with name synergy and he couldn’t make it to plat with Cammy so he’ll prolly drop her.

You just don’t play characters for more than a week, period.

Prof · 2017-02-26T00:00:31.000Z

Seeing fighting game players talk about balance is always such an interesting thing. Even among people who have played these games for real years of their lives, there is rarely a consensus between the mindset that strong tactics must be destroyed versus taking characters without those tactics and improving them. This has become way more obvious in the very fast paced world of patching games every x amount of months.

Zeniside · 2017-02-26T00:00:40.000Z

I do not like how strong the hitbox is for a move that recovers quicker than Bison st.fp, is -2, CCs, and can be charged to make it +3 on block or allow a special cancel.

Akhos · 2017-02-26T00:02:52.000Z

Froztey:

You just don’t play characters for more than a week, period.

Only in SFV. I have a hard time finding a character that I feel really suits me so I keep swapping around a lot.

Meanwhile I played Link for 15 years straight in Smash and Cody was my main in SF4 and SF x TK forever. I also settled on Ky as a main in Guilty Gear.

DevilJin_01 · 2017-02-26T00:03:11.000Z

Learn to whiff punish

Nobus3r1 · 2017-02-26T00:08:00.000Z

Necrotrophic:

Nobus3r1 ver. 2.0:

Necrotrophic:

Nobus3r1 ver. 2.0:

Necrotrophic:

by this time we had a reasonably good idea about what sf4 was. sure games technically develop over long periods of time, but sfv seems pretty cut and dry. its all set play and

So on the one hand you’re IMO more or less right about SFV. The game isn’t super complicated, there’s Twitter, Discord chats of both the open and secret variety and there’s Youtube. A game released in 2016 gets dissected a hell of a lot faster than a game released in 2009 did. On the other hand you are in no way, shape or form correct about SFIV being mostly figured out after one year. Even discounting the lack of dissemination of information (Twitter, Discord, Youtube) the fact that you couldn’t reliably count on tournament stations to have all of the unlockable characters actually unlocked greatly stifled how that game developed nevermind all the myriad of OSes that people discovered later and then re-tested in vanilla that would have worked then. For better or worse SFIV is a more complicated game than SFV is. It’s also worth noting that when SFIV updated it did so in one big “information dump” (+10 characters with SSFIV) rather than the drip feed approach that’s been taken with SFV. In terms of developing information about a game the latter approach makes it easier to “solve” things as when there’s only one new character at a time more people are working on stuff for and against that character rather than with dealing with 10 new characters at once where it’s an almost certaintly that a few of them will get lost in the shuffle.

i wasn’t saying sf4 was figured out. more like, we started to see where it was going

Thank you for the clarification. Disagree even more now. You can just look at the evolution tier lists in terms of who people thought was good in the game to see that people, quit frankly, didn’t seem to have an especially good handle on where the game was going. Like imagine taking 2015 knowledge, going back to 2009/early 2010 and entering a SFIV tournament. Who would you pick?

i don’t know why you’d disagree. i mean we knew by a year in that vortex was a major aspect of the game. looks like you’re trying to find fault no matter what.

by a year in we knew that vortex and option selects were a massive part of the meta. there’s really no way to deny this.

Yeah, man totally. Looking at the tier charts from that era I can’t even imagine what dealing with those Sagat, Ryu or Rufus vortexes was like. -_-
Also, if by vortex you mean Akuma then I guess you kind of have a point but every other character with a similar game plan seemed to still be in hibernation as of the end of year one.
I would also point out that the most IMO vortex centric character in the history SFIV was not even in the game until Super and even then it took a while to flesh Ibuki out.

Zeniside · 2017-02-26T00:09:03.000Z

The video being Vega is the only odd part. He has the mobility to whiff punish and can go for easy ass sweep whiff punishes when lazy.

Trying to whiff punish with Bison sweep is amusing,