The Street Fighter V Lounge: Kolin is COLD HEARTEEEEEEEEED!

[NCK_Feroce]

Mika and Cammy are the easiest characters in the game to play, highly recommend them to new players actually, they’re both fun, even season 2 Mika.

They prefer to pick Necalli, guess why

[Dime]

Legit only Uriens and Rog that might need a nerf at this point. Both characters get waaaayyyy to much reward. Also reversal aegis not getting stuffed by meaties is the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen.

Laura is stupid but not OP. Like turn your brain off dumb. Honestly I’d just like a slight need to her j. MK.

Mika is really underestimated. She might not even be low tier. Mika can still get EX peach off clap midscreen. She isn’t bad.

People have no idea about akuma right now. He has the most broken shit in the game, but has risk and low HP tied to his stupidity.

I don’t want there to be a balance patch before season 2. Akuma will be ass raped as will urien and right now they are 2 of the only characters that really feel like you’re playing actual streetfighter with strong tools not mediocre crap.

[HNIC_Mike]

What’s the purpose of doing a patch right before CPT starts? Just to confuse the shit out of players?
Laura isn’t even as powerful as S1 Mika right now…

Dont be scurred

The whole reason behind not patching is the active season. You can tell what the outliers are without waiting a year.

They might take some stuff from laura, but she doesnt have too much stand out stuff so i wouldnt worry.

I mean from a logical standpoint, why would you change anything in the game after everyone spent 2 months adapting to the new balance and right before the beginning of the competitive season? There’s a reason why they released the changes now and not in February.
If they nerf her it will probably happen in S3, but honestly I’m not even sure we’ll see her that much unless Japanese players start picking her. Laura players will probably just perform slightly better and that’s it.
Would be funny if Mika still ends up outperforming Laura after all.

Release now so the changes get tested in the wild, and patch in February to make sure the game is as balanced as possible for the upcoming season.

It makes sense from a logic standpoint.

No it doesn’t. You might have to relearn combos and setups right before your first live event that you have worked on for 2 months. This is bad not only for mains but also for the others that have to adapt on the fly.
People have been skeptical with Ibuki and Balrog being allowed at EVO 2016 only 2 weeks after release and for good reasons. It doesn’t make much sense to balance things again when we don’t even have tournament experience to prove what’s really broken or a public beta that is intended for that.

Laura is stupid but not OP. Like turn your brain off dumb. Honestly I’d just like a slight need to her j. MK.

If they nerf it even more they might as well just remove the hitbox from it.

Having a month+ prep time with everyone on the same start point isnt that bad. They did it last year.

Three months would have been better for prep, but if the goal is to be as well balanced as possible then another patch stands a better chance at making that happen than letting it rock as is.

[Sephiroth73003]

Balrog kinda ridiculous right now too. Is Tap plus on block now?

Shit kills you on hit and is jab pushishable and can be spaced safely. Completely retarded.

Huh? It’s always been safe it was -2 season 1. Now it just gets plus in the later levels…

Wasn’t referring to TAP. Probably shouldn’t have quoted him.

[TWINBLADES]

I actually sincerely believe that Cammy is the most honest character in the game.

>900 HP
>No projectiles
>No true high or low mix up that puts the player in a guessing state
>No overhead
>Gets nothing off throws (S1/S2)
>Has no more meterless DP meaning she has to respect mix ups
>No crazy VT it’s literally just enhanced SA
>CA is super situational so you can’t DERP with wake up super (also has the worst chip in the game).
>V-Reversal is still shit
>Hooligan is useless

What she has is speed, quick buttons and frame traps but…

None of that shit mattes if you don’t actually know how to use it.

I wasn’t using light block strings until I got to gold because I had no concept of frame traps.

Do I think Cammy sucks? Nah

when I play Cammy I don’t have anything other than c.mk and buttoning people to death.

Yet miggas have mirrors that can bounce shit back and forth. Plasma that goes full screen. Demon flips and tornados that go up in an arch.

Cammy is honesty in its purest form!

[Neclord]

Cammy has to fucking work hard as fuck to get a win and now that DP’s are gone she has to work even harder.

Laura’s just DERP their way through rank with shit CG set ups that are a pain in the ass to deal with.

Cammy is honest.

I hope this is sarcasm.

[Vhozite]

Games?

I’m on mobile so idk who thinks this is insightful. Speak up now

[HNIC_Mike]

@Dime_x

You being kinda hypocritical bro. Lol. How you gone complain about Ryu for a year then be like let the Urien/Akuma shit roll?

[NCK_Feroce]

I actually sincerely believe that Cammy is the most honest character in the game.

>900 HP
>No projectiles
>No true high or low mix up that puts the player in a guessing state
>No overhead
>Gets nothing off throws (S1/S2)
>Has no more meterless DP meaning she has to respect mix ups
>No crazy VT it’s literally just enhanced SA
>CA is super situational so you can’t DERP with wake up super (also has the worst chip in the game).
>V-Reversal is still shit
>Hooligan is useless

What she has is speed, quick buttons and frame traps but…

None of that shit mattes if you don’t actually know how to use it.

I wasn’t using light block strings until I got to gold because I had no concept of frame traps.

Do I think Cammy sucks? Nah

when I play Cammy I don’t have anything other than c.mk and buttoning people to death.

Yet miggas have mirrors that can bounce shit back and forth. Plasma that goes full screen. Demon flips and tornados that go up in an arch.

Cammy is honesty in its purest form!

Stop with that sizzurp fam

[Spinning_Beat]

Cammy and Ken are honest.

And behind Vega’s mask is fucking Mother Teresa.

[A10metal]

Games?

Sure

[TWINBLADES]

Someone explain why Cammy isn’t honest?

What kind of scumbaggery does she have that is oh soooooo hard to deal with?

Please speak up!

[Spinning_Beat]

I want to play too.

I would drop Vega. It’s just that as a stoner I am too lazy to learn a new character. I would rather adapt than start from scratch.

[OceanMachine]

What’s the purpose of doing a patch right before CPT starts? Just to confuse the shit out of players?
Laura isn’t even as powerful as S1 Mika right now…

Dont be scurred

The whole reason behind not patching is the active season. You can tell what the outliers are without waiting a year.

They might take some stuff from laura, but she doesnt have too much stand out stuff so i wouldnt worry.

I mean from a logical standpoint, why would you change anything in the game after everyone spent 2 months adapting to the new balance and right before the beginning of the competitive season? There’s a reason why they released the changes now and not in February.
If they nerf her it will probably happen in S3, but honestly I’m not even sure we’ll see her that much unless Japanese players start picking her. Laura players will probably just perform slightly better and that’s it.
Would be funny if Mika still ends up outperforming Laura after all.

Release now so the changes get tested in the wild, and patch in February to make sure the game is as balanced as possible for the upcoming season.

It makes sense from a logic standpoint.

No it doesn’t. You might have to relearn combos and setups right before your first live event that you have worked on for 2 months. This is bad not only for mains but also for the others that have to adapt on the fly.
People have been skeptical with Ibuki and Balrog being allowed at EVO 2016 only 2 weeks after release and for good reasons. It doesn’t make much sense to balance things again when we don’t even have tournament experience to prove what’s really broken or a public beta that is intended for that.

Laura is stupid but not OP. Like turn your brain off dumb. Honestly I’d just like a slight need to her j. MK.

If they nerf it even more they might as well just remove the hitbox from it.

Having a month+ prep time with everyone on the same start point isnt that bad. They did it last year.

Three months would have been better for prep, but if the goal is to be as well balanced as possible then another patch stands a better chance at making that happen than letting it rock as is.

It’s December 26th. The competitive season will probably start mid February. This means they should release it in 2-3 weeks, without any “official” beta or tournaments before that. They did that last year, yes, but it was after many months of beta process where everyone should expect the final version wouldn’t have been the one they know.
I don’t see them doing anything like that except for unintentionally broken stuff like infinites or glitches (see Ibuki’s air throw bug) and I really hope they wait at least a few months worth of tournaments to make any other changes.

[MochaLatte]

@Dime_x

You being kinda hypocritical bro. Lol. How you gone complain about Ryu for a year then be like let the Urien/Akuma shit roll?

Because getting outplayed for the whole round only to yolo ex headbutt into aegis reflector mixup is more honest than meterless dps

[YorKeY]

You guys are so active today.

[Dime]

@Dime_x

You being kinda hypocritical bro. Lol. How you gone complain about Ryu for a year then be like let the Urien/Akuma shit roll?

We ain’t had a year to find out if akuma is balanced or not by his stubbiness, low HP, low stun and ok fireball.

We know he’s got stupid good shit but we don’t know how those tools mesh with respect to his overall toolset.

We know uriens good but we don’t know how good because at this point it’s free to jump at him, damn near.

And if they put these characters in the game then maybe it can start a trend to putting stronger tactics in the game.

I didn’t mention any ryu specific nerfs, either.

In fact the only character specific nerf I mentioned was against my own characters iall.

[Raccon]

Mika and Cammy are the easiest characters in the game to play, highly recommend them to new players actually, they’re both fun, even season 2 Mika.

It depends. About Cammy you are right, but Mika isn’t that easy once she technically got 6 different activation of her trigger. Takes time to memorize all of its properties as resets, mixups and combo links. Plus, impatient Mikas tend to spam her command grabs, clap and cr.hp, which even a super silver player now gonna be aware to punish them properly. Pehaps you think she’s easy to master due to her great damage potential and 50/50 gameplay that use to intimidate those who are less expert with the matchup. In s2 she gonna be even more hard to master, no doubt.
To me, Cammy and Ken are the easiest chars to play with, meanwhile Karin, Sim, Guile and Ibuki are the hardest ones.

[Sephiroth73003]

Think you forgot the part where most of Cammy’s moveset is absurdly plus on block, has good reach, and can force a throw mix-up after every on hit combo, can combo from a distance into Oki, has some of the be

Playing against Cammy is like playing a character that does everything yours does but better for 1/3 of the cast, she invalidates projectiles and zoning for free, her super is a 3f fullscreen punisher, etc. The shimmy is the only mix-up most characters have, just because that is her only mix-up doesn’t mean it isnt good enough.

[Vhozite]

Aight i sent @A10metal an invite. What is your ID @“Spinning Beat” i forgot to add you last time