The Street Fighter V Lounge: Kolin is COLD HEARTEEEEEEEEED!

[itzpookiie]

@Twinblades
want to play some?
friendly matches

[Veserius]

I felt Ultra Vega was lukewarm. He wasn’t bad, but he wasn’t good. Which was still better than Vanilla where he was a super fair character compared to the high tiers and generally low tier. Wasn’t much better in the games before Ultra either.

vanilla vega is a buggy mess of a character who is only salvaged by okayish matchups against sagat and akuma, he’s very likely the worst character in the game though just because he’s prone to dying from his bugs.

he’s way way better in every other version than that one, and fairly mid tier.

[HNIC_Mike]

Only took a year but i finally think i have a full grasp on staying grounded as a shoto in this game. Even against the better buttons characters.

I always hated those matches because i felt like i had to jump

[Painguin]

With a the talk of another balance patch, it seems that some people are indicating that s2 feels pretty unbalanced already. I thought s1 was pretty balanced. Even my top tier character only got better. She got symbolic nerfs and huge buffs

I still haven’t had much time w s2 so I can’t comment too much. Thoughts?

Your character (Cammy I assume) is an inexplicable exception, not the norm. I could not believe they buffed her while clipping every tool Chun had. Very discouraged about Chun and I am looking for an alternative in Rashid who looks decent in season 2. I am very glad that I never jumped on Nash bandwagon. He is another character that has been butchered by powers that be going into the new season.

Guile, Cammy, and Balrog look hella scary to me now.

[A10metal]

@itzpookiie I need laura practice wanna play later

[itzpookiie]

@itzpookiie I need laura practice wanna play later

sure let me know
not too late though cause ill be out

[HNIC_Mike]

I think this Season is about even with S1 as far as balance goes. Clear top tier. Bunch of viable characters fighting for “just outside top ten” tier. 1 or 2 bottom tier

Its less derpy so far and i like the system changes for the most part so overall I’d call it an improvement.

People are going to call x character dead or ruined, but theyre all for the overwhelming majority still capable of catching the right path and winning CPT events. Plus the characters people are calling top tier have hard counters now except maybe Guile.

[Necrotrophic]

With a the talk of another balance patch, it seems that some people are indicating that s2 feels pretty unbalanced already. I thought s1 was pretty balanced. Even my top tier character only got better. She got symbolic nerfs and huge buffs

I still haven’t had much time w s2 so I can’t comment too much. Thoughts?

Your character (Cammy I assume) is an inexplicable exception, not the norm. I could not believe they buffed her while clipping every tool Chun had. Very discouraged about Chun and I am looking for an alternative in Rashid who looks decent in season 2. I am very glad that I never jumped on Nash bandwagon. He is another character that has been butchered by powers that be going into the new season.

Guile, Cammy, and Balrog look hella scary to me now.

Strangely I kind of like s2 Chun more. For some reason my brain just can’t do qcf legs after maining Chun in every game except sfxt. I tried to play her for like a week and I kept doing piano legs in tense moments.

Overall I think Chun is still strong. I mean she doesn’t have the stubby normal issue so she can win

[DevilJin_01]

Only character that seens surely not worth playing like not even for top 8 placing is Fang. Haven’t heard anyone optimistic about him yet.

Pretty much all of the other characters have some optimism from someone.

[Quark]

yeah FANG just got dee-jay’d pretty much

[itzpookiie]

Only character that seens surely not worth playing like not even for top 8 placing is Fang. Haven’t heard anyone optimistic about him yet.

Pretty much all of the other characters have some optimism from someone.

The japanese dont like the chinese mang

[Quark]

Dieminion’s thoughts on S2 FANG:

I’m disappointed with FANG, honestly speaking. His V-Trigger is just the ability to do charge moves without charge AFTER you’ve made contact with a normal. It’s a lazy idea. His new combo from standing light punch into standing heavy punch is super situational. All of his setups from season one are either altered or removed.

His neutral game is the same, but hindered since all of his important buttons gained more startup. His crouching light punch was useless, but now EVEN MORE useless since standing medium kicks’ startup was slowed down. It was the only thing you could combo into on counter hit only before. Laura received a true buff to her cr.LP, which was bad before, but FANG didn’t (too powerful for him I guess). His zoning is literally the same outside of a three frame reduction on his ex poison balls and his MK Ryobenda (trap) lasts for 20 more frames.

So I’m inferring he should be played more defensively. Offensively he’s worse. He didn’t receive frame advantage to needed moves, like his standing heavy kick and his crouching light kick. So characters with meterless 3rd frame invincible DP’s can always interrupt him if he starts with those moves, even Guile’s meterless flashkick now, which FANG’s cr,LP has it’s only use previously. Standing HK slowed down by TWO frames (WHAT?).

His HK trap lasts for 20 frames longer as well, but received 3 more frames of recovery. Ok so he got frame advantage on some normals, but that is only because his normals got slower so they needed to account for that in order for him to keep his original frame advantage. If they want him to be played more defensively, how when his pokes got slower? His zoning is not better, it’s the same as season one with no damage increase to his fireballs or trap like Guile’s sonic boom.

The only difference I’ve noticed zoning wise is when his V-Trigger is activated, his HP poison balls have a slightly different arc. His moves are now too slow to effectively punish overheads and he lost his only confirmation from a low attack, so he can’t break defense. His main issue is that characters he had trouble with got better and characters he did well against before got buffed, ON TOP OF HIS NERFS.

I’m wishing good luck to anyone that sticks with him for this year, should his changes stay the same.

https://pvplive.net/c/dieminion-talks-season-2-meta-and-character-change

[Darc_Requiem]

Only character that seens surely not worth playing like not even for top 8 placing is Fang. Haven’t heard anyone optimistic about him yet.

Pretty much all of the other characters have some optimism from someone.

Fang? I noticed a character was deleted from the select screen on 12/20. Maybe it’s this “Fang” you speak of

[DevilJin_01]

Works out cuz Dieminion should be throwing booms not balls. I wanna see those American arm pits up when hes in the corner

He said he already thought Ibuki was good in season 1 and will most likely use her as his secondary for Season 2

[OceanMachine]

Wasn’t Dieminion the one that said back in April “meh new Guile is too weak” and then dropped him?

[HNIC_Mike]

I dont think they even intentionally nerfed Fang. He got the system nerfs with the slowed mid range buttons, but i think his buff was supposed to be the gray life system change.

They think really highly of poison, and over shot its value again this season.

[Evil_Canadian]

We need nega fang, like Gnaf.

He’s hyper rushdown and his health goes down over time, sf phoenix

[OceanMachine]

I dont think they even intentionally nerfed Fang. He got the system nerfs with the slowed mid range buttons, but i think his buff was supposed to be the gray life system change.

Poison already stopped grey life recovery so I don’t see how this benefits to him.

[Rugalitarian]

I felt Ultra Vega was lukewarm. He wasn’t bad, but he wasn’t good. Which was still better than Vanilla where he was a super fair character compared to the high tiers and generally low tier. Wasn’t much better in the games before Ultra either.

vanilla vega is a buggy mess of a character who is only salvaged by okayish matchups against sagat and akuma, he’s very likely the worst character in the game though just because he’s prone to dying from his bugs.

he’s way way better in every other version than that one, and fairly mid tier.

Dat 25% extra damage from the mask coming off. Can’t forget the wall dive bug where Vega wouldn’t attach to the wall and instead land next to his opponent with about 32 frames of recovery.

[Evil_Canadian]

I dont think they even intentionally nerfed Fang. He got the system nerfs with the slowed mid range buttons, but i think his buff was supposed to be the gray life system change.

Poison already stopped grey life recovery so I don’t see how this benefits to him.

He has more time to get you poisoned and catch the gray life and hold it hostage before it fades.