We should play tomorrow. Got my stuff fixed, so I’m itching for some sets.
20 mins?
Edit: Nevermind I need new glasses.
It’s 1am here man, I gotta at least try to sleep.
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Sleep well, for we have a legendary battle tomorrow to prepare for.
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Loser of FT10 3S Sets should be forced to watch Artemis Fowl.
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I’m down. Anyone and all are welcome to challenge. I just wanna play 3rd Strike.
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Yeah…say that after you watch the movie…
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A’ight, so I finally managed to listen to the whole thing. (And fucked up my sleep schedule again, worth it tho.)
2 things immediately jumped to my attention as soon as I heard him talk about them. Gonna paraphrase because I ain’t good at memorizing things word by word.
“The FGC used to be a safe space for black people, a space where your skill was the only thing that mattered.”
And that’s an incredibly powerful statement. This is a real thing. None of that SJW “safe space” bullshit.
The other was him talking about “How the SJW crew don’t see them as people.”
This circles back to what I said about PoC being a disgustingly racist term. And it all makes a bit more sense now. This is a problem with society overall. The polarization, the extremism, and both sides do the exact same thing.
Put themselves on a pedestal. Consider themselves better than other people. Ostracize those who think differently.
That kind of thing can’t be taken lightly. And worse, when you realize that as a community, the FGC was much more inclusive than it is now, that it was truly inclusive, it’s embarrassing.
Thanks for posting that, Perth. I hope this was uploaded to Youtube instead of just Twitter because this can’t be forgotten. This can’t just get drowned by inane shit like everything that gets on Twitter.
The community as a whole needs to reflect on this. And it needs to do so for a while.
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eSports was a mistake.
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With everything that’s going on in america the FGC just seems like a recent reminder of how quickly something can be taken, change, lose it’s identity, and then warped into something else entirely.
The people that went to the arcade’s were misfits, and outcast alot of the time. But no matter what you looked like, believed or even had done or couldn’t do. NONE of that matter on the sticks…
Things did get violent sometimes but that’s just how it goes with competitive anything at some point, it wasn’t all the time thing. And if anything it was a reality check that you can’t just do, act, and say anything to anyone without consequences.
The arcade owner, or game creator, or mall manager didn’t need to Life time ban you, the people did that.
I’ve watched the fgc grow pretty huge, a BIG part of that is random people who never got chance to experience something hype and raw sitting at home watching a stream and falling in love with “hype, realness and real talk” until it becomes too real then it’s like woah woah woah.
Then there’s the whole money, company and sponsorship part of the equation that’s even more disgusting and manipulative.
Esport’s has a huge hand in this. But hey it is what it is.
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Arcades were just places where kids hung out without their parents. So without adult’s dumbass opinions, kids just played games with other kids. Nothing else mattered
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back in the day in my place
It’s also popular place were parents came to drag their teens that were supposed to buy some grocery stuff or those that didn’t attend their schooling.
teens get banned in the arcade if they used token with a string that they pulled out. if they are caught the owner of the arcade would drag them to the clean the toilets.
Yet arcade is also a place nerds and geeks get even to school bullies but some are getting punch in the face, then those bullies can’t go back anymore.
There’s a few elements that are borderline. I don’t necessarily think the Pokchop situation was inherently racist. Wiz has operated on outbursts for decades. It used to be that modding GD was the worst job because you’d have constantly deal with MrWizard all up in your grill about some bullshit or another that happened. The guy is just rash on a lot of stuff; especially if he feels it isn’t how things should run. The one example you guys got is the banning over the April’s fools stuff. He didn’t dip in first, mans read a post saying we should call black members Balrogs and white members Guiles and well there you go.
The other stuff is a legacy issue. There is a vid of Triforce talking to LI Joe and somebody else (think it was Sanford) about the state of the FGC in the east coast. One of his point, his huge one in fact, was that eSports was only really helping West Coast players. Which makes some sense when you consider that the Cannons are on the west coast, all the tech companies making games are on the West coast and i think around that time a lot of the eSports teams were on the west coast.
It was also for a while that if you wanted to get sponsored, you need to be on the west coast. JWong moved to the west coast because of the sponsorship, ChrisG got sponsored after moving to the West Coast, Yipes moved to the West Coast…to get sponsored. When you get a lot of great black players on the East Coast and none of them are getting sponsored, or having face to face with companies is harder just because of geography, things start looking mighty odd.
Mind you, this all eventually got fixed. But you’re gonna have some history of bad feelings there.
FGC used to be a safe space for black people because it was mostly black. Finding out people were white in SRK used to be a big shock (big hint: anime names almost always black). The make up of the scene changing along with eSports corporate talk (and the fact that even a lot of old heads didn’t like some of it) lead to a lot of that changing too.
Hell, I’ll quote myself on this whole nonsense:
But there’s this really weird element that involves how much impact Black American culture has had in shaping some of the behaviors in the FGC. By extension though, FGs have been minority dominated from a rough and tumble places. For the US, it meant growing up with a lot of the outside culture coming into it as it got its legs.
But when you move into eSports, a lot of that behavior which made it unique among a lot of gaming as suddenly a big issue in order to gain legitimacy. Its kind of interesting that right now the scene finds itself in the middle of an argument Black American culture has had since the early 90s: “What’s the place the word “nigga” should have in our culture?” Based on how that gets argued and settled, its going to make a decision impact just the type of people that got settled early and found a home in the scene…and accidentally do it to make pop culture and a lot of “white people” (or basically the group of people who get to say whether or not the FGC is legitimate as a gaming eSporty culture among other ones) more comfortable.
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Can you enlighten me on the whole black culture thing in america?
I’ve never treated people different based on skin color, origin or looks.
So with the whole racism things and black culture things I constantly hear coming from america I just look confused and ask myself if this whole country is just fucking stupid.
Racism is a worldwide thing. Never forget that.
We might know better than to treat our peers based on racial nonsense, but it’s an issue that plagues the whole world.
If you look at France and England they’ll have a lot of the issues that happen in America.
Hell, even Brazil, the melting pot of the world has pretty much the exact same issues that plague the US.
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Easy Peasy tl;dr is:
- Civil War happens
- South stays salty and keeps black seperate
- US Blacks then have a seperate way of doing a bunch of little things.
- This also leads to the creation of different musical styles.
- Segregation codifies this, so the separation leads to different things.
- Some of these cross over so white people adopt them.
- After that, most black people keep to themselves and develop other things.
- These see cross over, white people adopt them.
- Black people keep to themselves and develop other things.
- These cross over and white people adopt them.
An insane amount of US popular music has its root in black music. The most important genre of the 20th century, Jazz was created by US blacks. The problem is that at no point does US culture ever really do a good job of calling a black man American.
So blacks stay black. Things have gotten a lot better in a lot of ways in the US. But being black in the US is sort of like playing SF5: as soon as you get comfortable some dumbshit will remind you of what game you’re really playing.
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I don’t get it, even if they’re black they’re born americans.
I legit can’t say someone who is german for example, isn’t cause his Skin color is different.
This sounds awfuly stupid what you describe there.
Let’s also remember that West Africans were treated as subhuman as early as the late 1400s when they started to get traded across the Atlantic. Why? We looked really different and had stronger builds so they could be used for heavy lifting. And even hundreds of years later they were STILL considered as less than men when in 1787 slaves were considered 3/5 of a person. On top of that there’s a very long history of the cruel and inhumane things Black people have endured, many of which are still happening today. I’d like to go into more details but work calleth.
Lastly people wonder why as a culture Black people struggle so much… Well if your women were consistently raped, separated from their kids and the men were beaten often, disenfranchised from having equal advantages and generally used as tools to grow wealth for the greater part of 400 years then yeah, the struggle would be felt in the current year. Crazy that the struggle is part of the culture. Okay. Now work calleth.
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It’s not that simple.
To racist people, they are legally americans, but are beneath the mighty whitey.
In practice, they’re treated very differently. Institutional racism is a thing, although a veiled one.
I can’t really describe it in detail, because while I’m somewhat well-informed about it, I’m white, so I’m not gonna act like I know what it’s like on a personal level like these stupid SJWs do.
But basically, black people are on a heavy double standard all the time.
Other minorities are too, but the black community suffers from it the most across the whole world because of colonialism and its ripple effects.
Edit: Have you watched that 30 minute Twitter vid Pertho posted?
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