The ST match vids + discussion thread

cr lk to stand fierce works, its something that I used in hyper fighting before I found out about the cps1 chains. It’s pure timing, even turbo will not help you get it to come out consistently.

Back in hyper my buddy saw someone do a CPS1 chain and tried to figure it out. We went into an intense training mode session for weeks to get the timing down. We where probably able to do it like 60 or 70 percent of the time. Then we discovered SRK and found out about the CPS1 trick.

If you get the cr short timing down, you can do 6 cr lk to combo. Against ryu and ken, you can do 5 cr lk and CPS1 chain into far stand fierce.

Did you see the 2 hit message? I ask because I have done the crouch Short into sweep combo before, but it doesn’t give the 2 hit message. I’ve seen this combo not only on emulated ST but also HDR Classic mode and Remix mode, not only O.Ryu but N.Ryu/N.Ken/O.Ken too.

Paper, the CPS-2 characters do not have CPS-1 chains. It only works for CPS-1 characters. As for linking cr.Short or cr.Jab into cr.RH or cl.Fierce, it has to be SSF2, not SSF2T. I have done both combos, and I recall they occurred off meaty attacks. Other than that, those attacks cannot hit on the first active frame to link, but into each other (e.g. cr.Short into cr.Jab works in ST).

I have tried to link cr.Short into cl.Fierce or cr.RH for several matches, it just does not work. Unless only heterosexuals can’t do it, it is impossible.

i’ve seen mattsun combo crouch short --> sweep in a match, not meaty. i’ll try to find the video again

IT WORKS DAMMIT. I HAVE DONE CR.LK NON MEATY INTO ST.HP DJSDHJKGKJGBFDSHJFBSDK 2 HIT COMBO MESSAGE FKJBGSDKFHJGBSD

I doesn’t, you and blitzfu simply lack manliness to argue about this! Go play Elton John characters like Ken and Sagat! If cr.Short hits in the first active frame, it will not combo!

To add on to what you said, I did that cr. lk into sweep with O. Ken recently and got the 2 hit combo message. I tried to grasp what I saw, but couldn’t figure out any other explanation. I am with you on that man.

You missed what I said completely. Because English no good. Read more, times one more.

  1. In training mode, I was able to do cr short stand fierce using TIMING ONLY. NO CPS1 chain command. (CPS1 chain = cr short stand short + stand fierce same time)

  2. I learned about the CPS1 chain command AFTER learning to do it the hard way.

  3. CPS1 chain = EASY WAY (CPS1 chain = cr short stand short + stand fierce same time)

  4. Timing, HARDWAY. command is cr short wait for the moment ryu’s leg comes back push stand fierce at the EXACT CORRECT TIME.

5.Two different technique , NOT SAME, outcome is the SAME in Hyper fighting.

  1. In ST, easy way CPS1 chain NOT WORK ANYMORE. NO GOOD FOR DO ONE MORE.

  2. In ST, HARDWAY, TIMING WAY, still work.

  3. Timing too hard, you CAN NOT DO IT. Rizone can. I can also, but not 100 percent, maybe 10 or 20 percent. I show GGPO tonight. Rizone can do maybe 80 or 90 percent. He can also do cr short cr short cr short jump roundhouse 4 hit combo. This combo is all timing as well. Turbo buttons can not do this.

Alright, you did mention it was timing, and I now mention you are crazy. I will log on just to see you and Rizone fail. Miserably. I will bet 2 hookers from Gruta Azul or Carmen’s Club. You pick it.

If Rizone wants to share, he didn’t agree to this, I just dropped his name because I know he understands the timing. I will show you though. What are their names?

Frank and Tyson

I’m with os_BR in that I don’t see how these links would be possible in a neutral situation based on the actual frames, but I’d be interested in a demonstration.

I know Frank… She she still owes me money…

you dont know pleasure till you’ve tasted tysons meat…
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I didn’t know losing was fun. Yeah it’s easy to say a character is “fun” only when you get a few wins but when shit hits the fan (which is what usually happens with n.sagat) you’d just pick another less shitty character. Maining N.Sagat isn’t fun lol, it’s retarded. Yaya is retarded, he’s denying himself the wins he deserves. Shari is actually in the right here. The Japanese are dumb. IT IS jut like picking o.dhalsim, or o.claw, or o.rog to be less cheap. End of rine.

And I guess I’m dumb, because I play N.Sagat a lot, only out of guilt, and because it pisses me off when I read the stupid shit XSPR posts here, and all the other comments (there are a fuck ton) I stumble upon when watching videos or reading blogs and threads. I guess I should just play a joke character so people will appreciate me playing, just I appreciate all other (non troll) players. I’ll either be looked at as an inferior player with o.gat, and no matter how much I’d win I’d never be considered as skillful as a dhalsim player, or play n.sagat and never win anything ever (just like yaya). And even though I know that’s stupid and I’m just being a bitch I do it anyways.

I’m a retard.

/fuck you all

Respect to Claw and O.Gat players, for playing to win, even though nobody will ever consider you an actual winner. Bullshit characters for life

Winning is fun. But not repeated low tigers x 50 ^^

Between dives x 50 and low tiger x 50, I don’t know who is more boring.

If the game only has claw & o gat, I’d probably pick claw because that tranny will come out on top. But then more likely I will skip the game altogether.

BTW underkingdom N sagat beat HYDLIDE’s sim in a set. I haven’t seen underkingdom in a while :frowning:

Except you forgot the part where n.sagat does spam low tiger x50, unless you’re in poke range, in which case as an O.Sagat player you could opt for his strong footsie game if you wanted (unless it’s chun or something). The difference is that you need to make a bullshit amount of reads when you try to apply low with n.sagat.

I mean yeah I’ll do a fancy combo or something, and you’ll think N.sagat is soo fun, but the reality is that 90% of the time I don’t have a chance to land that crossup, I’ll have the same options as o.gat, meaty poke into low tiger or just meaty low tiger. Also O.Sagat has a rushdown game, you just have to be creative. The only possible thing n.sagat has over o.sagat is that crossup, when it comes to offense. Throw softening helps too.

I’ll admit n.sagat is more fun in easy matchups like cammy or blanka, cause IT’S WAY TOO EASY with o.sagat, but most people play Ryu and Chun li and Rog and shit. It’s not even fun in these matchups, it’s just unfair, and a pain in the ass.

n sagat spams projectiles much like n ken spams projectfiles.

That’s a huge difference from o sagat where he turbos QCF + K you jump over one and land on another.

B I G D I F F E R E N C E

On second thought, I might have seen that Tyson sausage before as well.

ken has a fast walkspeed and good rushdown to fall back on, N.Sagat relies almost entirely on his fireball game, just like o.gat.