What do people think of Sugoruko?
How man people actually use him???
Bump…Triple post…
I just wanna know what you guys think about this…
Yumeji is Class B, Ukyo is Class A…yet to me…I cannot understand what Ukyo has that is better than Yumeji…seriously I cannot…I feel Yumeji should be A Class as well…
Yes Ukyo has a backdash into qcf+p which is an instant overhead…but.Yumeji’s almost anywhere practically esp jumping back is HELLA SAFE.
Also Yumeji has the same Ghetto old school cr.kickxxdf+kick double sweep combo just like Ukyo…
And with that being said I am going to outline the pro’s and cons IMO of Yumeji and Ukyo…interject and tell me what you think…
Ukyo
+Fast safe A/B pokes
- Backdash into hcf p move is instant overhead.
- hcf+p move in air is very good.
- If the hcf+p move is blocked in the air it is unsafe…something Yumeji doesnt have to worry about.
- His Ex super IMO sucks ass…if blocked you are truly wide the fuck open.
- Can throw fake apples…something Yumeji cannot.
-His new move is not that good… (qcf+p) only from a distance you need to use it and off certain set-ups…it’s not that good…Yumeji’s new one is hella better.
-His jump is super slow…Yumeji’s is faster. Ukyo’s jump Crossover B is hella hard to use because of his super slow jump…its like hmmm what kinda of jump mixup can I do?? Jump hcf+p or jump b…that’s like it…:sad:
Okay now to Yumeji
+Fast safe pokes st.a/st.b/cr.a
-No fake apples
- Faster jump
+Safer hcf+p move in the air
+New rdp+move is better than both of Ukyo’s new moves combined
+Has projectile
-EX is not great, but better than Ukyo’s
-Backdash hcf+p move aint an overhead for what I know…if it is Ukyo’s is better for overhead purposes…
+BUT, Yumeji’s is better overall because Ukyo coughs after each one be it ground or not…Yumeji is relatively safe after a backdash one!!!
Best grooves for both-Ten Groove because of comboing moves/Supers off the AB, AABBCxxspecial/super…
What do you guys think?? I think Yumeji should be A Class…and I don’t have access to really high level Tenka players… (Only okay and decent ones)
Uyko has Ten A+B AABBCCxx214+B dash pounce, and 2C preceeding this this for counter-hit punishment…that’s really all there is to it. ^^
Hmmm okay interesting…have you tried to see if Yumeji can do the same thing…bc with Yumeji I can link Ten A+B AABBCCxx214+b also… (Maybe it was 214+a I don’t have the game with me for now I’m at work)
And Yumeji can link the 2C counterhit into that Ten Combo as well if I am not mistaken…once again correct me if I am wrong because I’m at work I don’t have the game to test right now…normally I do have it to test right on the fly…
A+B AABBCxx421+A~A does much less than Ukyo’s combo, and it does not work in the corner. She must do A+B BBCxx214+B, pounce in the corner and it does even less.
Wow…so I see that is the major difference…okay now it makes sense…because based off everything else I laid out I didn’t see why Ukyo was ranked higher than Yumeji…
Thanks Cygnus…:tup:
wat every happen to those sbo matches?
Bump, Good question, no one has any info on when SBO DVDs are going to be released at all???
now this game i have interest in, but i am used to SS4. my main is ukyo, think you can help me adjust?
Yes easily…get Ten Groove Ukyo…ala SSIV, then learn the bnb every character Ten groove Combo ala SSIV- A+B, AABBCCC-Its an 8 hitter in this game in comparison to a 14 hitter in SSIV.
Also know that you still have the body swap up close AB thing from SSIV and you have Rage Explosion ala SSIV, same stuff except now the body swap doesnt make you go on the opponents back ala SSIII/some IV combos to create uber broken comboes. Other than that I got some Ukyo stuff posted above in my comparison of him and Yumeji, both me and Cygnus have stuff that should help you maximize Ukyo.
Just like SSIV A+B, BBC is your basic combo to combo supers/special moves with, but with Ukyo its different, he can do the 8 hitter and stop at the 7th hiter and do a special/super combo finisher!!!
Rogueyoshi…how’s that transitioning coming with Ukyo?
Any other character I can help anyone out with?
I’m taking requests…
What do you guys think…should they make Tenka Special or not?
Oh yeah…other than speed what other differences have people noticed between Purple Nak and Red Nak??
little bump to this thread…
is this game worth learning and playing?
i like so much samsho series (especially 4) but i never tried to learn it in deep 'cause no one else play it
tenka changed this?or is only another snk shadow game covered by kof’s shine?
No this is an excellent game…seriously…the game is certainly worth learning…seriously…worth the time…everything is shadowed by KOF but this is a worthy game in its own right…
Easily one of the best Sam Sho games next to 2…
i havent even got a chance to go play yet. i play it at the arcade by my place, but ive been busy with work.
well i can’t wait to the end of aug’s those sbo tenka matches will be out.
Fan-fucking-tastic!!! :party:
Bump- what would you guys make for a console tier?
I don’t wanna see a co-refer to a thread in GC.Net because I made that thread…(irregardless of who the “author says it is” Fact!)
so I’m doing it here…
If all the hidden characters were allowed in tourney play, what would the tiers look like In your opinion?
Any thoughts guys? Would Kuroko be the top?
Then after that would the S Class of Mina, Amakusa, Iroha and Shizumaru drop down a class because of EX Yoshitora and EX Yunfei??? Or would EX Yunfei and Yoshitora just jump in the S Class? Discuss…
In all honesty if you want almost negative competition and a boring lack luster fighting engine then this is the game for you. It’s really not worth even reading about. Very 1 dimensional despite being a 2D fighter. I’d go as far as to say, if you spend any quality time with this game I’ll introduce to another game that’s just as
entertaining: PACMAN, you just might like it.
Well we all know UnCauzi does not like this game as all and he has his own reasons not to like it…
Thank god they are my own reasons, if they were someone elses
then I don’t know what I’d do.