The SRK Science Thread 2.0

Oh no, don’t worry, I don’t trust anyone of anything at this point (not in a negative way). accepting all of the info but critical/questioning of everything (including most of what I already accepted). It sorta relates to positive disintegration (edit: actually, now that I ruminate on it, positive disintegration is just another, not spiritual, way of explaining the process of ‘awakening’ but not quite at the level/scope that comes from spirituality imo…one way to see it is as multiple awakenings to higher and more knowledge, creativity, and possibilities)

I will agree a lot of the things I’m saying doesn’t necessarily agree with conventional standards thoughts of medicine/science but I think that’s just the problem, imo things have been limited for a reason. I think when we talk about energy and spiritual things and physicality and science all concerning vibrations in energy (or really, everything in how our reality works) I see them as all the same. And as I get to the 5th part of the tesla vid it looks like that is exactly mentioned haha. Like I would say, if I understand what you’re saying correctly, that the definition or physical is too limited perhaps. IIRC white shadow posted a scientific link that described the universe as pure consciousnesses in a way (that we most likely can’t ever fully comprehend), and also spiritually their is the mention of the all knowing creative infinite consciousness…essence that accounts for everything in our universe including what is sometimes separated as physical and emotional or energy or spiritual when it all comes from the same thing in those usually eastern beliefs. and also mention of all kinds of different frequencies and vibrations. And then when I watch a video on what is consciousness and he’s talking about string theory and how all is one, the waves/strings, the concept of all that is is unity and diversity at the same time which rings true with the eastern spiritual beliefs and practices (which also includes physical IIRC) which all say it’s all conciousness/pure creative energy in waves and frequencies manifesting in different ways. emotions, all that is physical, matter plus energy, vibrations, how the nature of the universe works (at least in some ways though imo in all ways). Though I’m also not quite sure I understand where you’re coming from with your post (sorry). it’s most likely because we’re seeing the concepts in probably pretty different ways. let me soak on this for a while maybe.

maybe reword it. I’m not exactly sure what you are replying to even lol. it might help me try to explain what I’m trying to say. like if it has to do with that homeopathy stuff like I said it doesn’t really agree with me lol. healing of physical pain sensation (let alone actual physical damage) is also not something I really agree with as of now, at least past a small extent.

one other funny relation I made today was from something spiritual I read yesterday that mentioned the cause of jet lag was most likely due to us going so far away from the vibrational range we’re used to on the ground and our vibrations need to get back used to being away from this natural vibrations we’re used to that had a certain frequency and was a certain heigh above the earth (and also went into more depth on some of those things) and then today as I’m watching this Tesla vid that’s exactly what he said scientifically with the frequency range in the ionosphere iirc. these vibrations seem very vulnerable and if it really is how most all things in our universe works then those who have the science of dealing with these (tesla’s findings) has quite some power over many things.

I really think I’m coming from it in a different (not necessarily better, gotta be open to everything) way as I see it due to our different experiences and what info you’ve acquired compared to mine. I mean, I’m even totally reshaping my views on aspects of religion, science, and who and what I believe/trust in those fields. Like almost 180 degrees on Chris Hitchens as someone I admired (I prefer chris hedges now though I’m still skeptical of him as well). Fuck Michio Kaku imo (well, maybe not entirely) but you get the point maybe. Especially when I consider more and more of the “conspiracy theories” and how the mind works and how I saw how my mind and awareness was just a few weeks ago and everything starts getting more related (in my mind at least) and relating more and more to the news that actually gets out imo the news and history and especially the science that we are given is not all of it or changed or in tesla’s case hush hushed in a way.

of course I’m not saying anything is concrete I’m just brainstorming and searching mostly and really am thinking of many different forks in how I believe our reality really is concerning spiritual, physical, and just with how our species is doing and a few of those possibilities, depending on what’s true or not, is that scientific facts we have been given aren’t entirely all true or isn’t even given to the public. furthermore we aren’t readily given something which possibly holds more importance than we realize (spirituality in the form of chakras/energy vibrations) and don’t see the separation between ego/higher consciousness. without that the and considering everything else our thoughts/perceptions can be really limited (even if we think they’re not), you get caught up in all the different subtle indoctrinations/false beliefs etc. without realizing it. we’re taken away from our intuition at it’s best level imo. when I mention these spiritual ideas mentioning similar things to some of the scientific thoughts concerning consciousness and our universe I think that some might be looking at ‘science’ and the universe and our consciousness in a limited way (and from seeing the difference between being the ego in simple mind/body physicality vs higher consciousness I can really see this) when all these things from both the ‘separate’ spiritual and scientific ideas seem to be on the same wavelength (lol) I really see it all as one.

if one stays purely in earthbound physicality in body and mind (without knowing of higher consciousness) and they think they are scientific and inquisitive and consider everything…yes, maybe they consider everything but there are still things that are out of their view then yes maybe they consider everything but it doesn’t constitute what’s out of their view. considering that science (more like scientific info given to people not actual ‘science’ science [though in a sense it is keeping what real science is from the people maybe]), history, media, news, education, our way of life, global activity etc. is most likely controlled by those who’ve always been in power or even just considering how the actual reality that most see is…it’s not hard to believe that this is possible. whereas the higher consciousness is also referred to as infinite creative wisdom/power/knowledge (actually quite a few ways to say it) but it basically is something that you can connect to that considers and accepts all possibilities without them being filtered by our limited ego (or in the case of our current reality, the stressed, oppressed, molded, indoctrinated, brainwashed, influenced, information handpicked and fed ego). Which it looks like Tesla might’ve been hella sensitive/attuned to imo. it’s not so much acquiring the knowledge. it’s also using unfiltered/unbiased ways to full process everything. essentially creativity of a higher level. where much more information stored in the different areas in your mind flow more freely without bias or restrictions. whether the information becomes smaller or bigger than as you acquired before relating it with all other information. ok, you can spit back ‘facts’ and things fed to you in books that are controlled from someone with much more power. but what about questioning all of it. accepting all other possibilities. thinking for yourself. the thing is a lot of people think they do this already when they don’t. from seperate topics about purely art (like drawing) to spirituality, to the status of our education system, to conpiracy theories…all talk about our abilitiy to truly reason, create, use third eye, pineal gland, etc. being impaired or downright destroyed. it’s all related. and for good reason to be impaired, that way people will still not consider other possibilities.

sorry for the rambling. and it sounds a little limited when I try to type because all things I’m talking about I can connect/chain to a lot of other of the subjects I’ve looked up and is flowing through my head but it’s hard to type out more of those links and order it (as I’m not sure that there is a way to put this down with a ‘start’ and an ‘end’ it just all is sort of a blob of different connecting info that’s hard to put down).

Yeah the mind has an excellent capacity to heal. Through positive stimulation (music, dogs, games, etc.) it has been well-documented that the body has a remarkable ability of recovering from otherwise permanent or chronic ailments.


[SIZE=4]One of the most terrifyingly incomprehensible theories in physics…explained![/SIZE]

This is very confounding to say the least. I wonder if these different fields due to their expand far beyond the quantum level and extend on a universal scale, due to being infinite?

Plant/Human Symbiosis and the Fall of Humanity: Interview With Tony Wright:

http://www.disinfo.com/2012/04/planthuman-symbiosis-and-the-fall-of-humanity-interview-with-tony-wright/

interesting thing I just came across. Contains a lot of stuff I’ve learned elsewhere but added more interesting thoughts. Ancient peoples were very knowledgeable and experienced when it came to natural and energy healing (like mentioned, it’s all the same…all energy/love from the Sun). And many other things (let’s hope the great change the Mayans saw in 12/21 is truly the great awakening and, thus, evolution of mankind and we can get out from under the oppressive force on us to see the true genius potential of everyone).

Even when you look into stuff about Cancer (as a fungus) and natural ways of healing it. It’s part of the mind but yet it is not. Though it also ties more to what people in power are doing but that’s another thread lol (making money off them Cancer and HIV lies)

well it’s the mind that can heal but it’s also the mind that can hurt. People curing their cancer with positive energy flow/emotion/thoughts (and healthy natural organic eating as well). If placebos are getting more effective lately I would say that might have to do with what seems a greater awakening of people in this age (which is likely what the Mayans predicted…which is why it seems some people are working on dat endgame).

You say you’re Bipolar? Might need to do some doubling.

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Keep in mind I have found no reputable source for the quadripolar sun, but the dual-state electron find is pretty cool.

It exists!

isn’t string theory supposed to contribute towards the tangibility of nature by organising the contexts of its ambiguity?

I’m referring to the premise of strings as the hitherto answer for everything, not because it can be empirically proven or even rationally tested, but because the theory conveniently provides the answers sought mathematically. It just never boded well with me to faith in such a concept, especially when it needed another theoretical particle to even support its existence.

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18 April 2012 Last updated at 15:12 ET
Electron ‘split-personality’ seen in new quasi-particle

The structure of the material permits careful study of electrons as they only have one way to move in it
Researchers have discovered another way that electrons - one of the Universe’s few fundamental particles - can undergo an “identity crisis”.
Electrons can divide into “quasi-particles”, in which their fundamental properties can split up and move around like independent particles.
Two such quasi-particles had been seen before, but a team reporting in Nature has now confirmed a third: the orbiton.
These orbitons carry the energy of an electron’s orbit around a nucleus.
Generally, these properties are not independent - a given electron has that set of properties, maintaining them as it moves around, while a nearby electron has a different set.
But the idea of quasi-particles allow these properties to split and move around independently, granting them to nearby electrons.
An analogy of this slippery idea is a traffic jam on a one-lane road - it is as if one blue car, pointed west and running at 1,000 RPM, passes on its blueness, its engine speed and its direction to adjacent cars.
The cases in which such strange behaviour can be induced are rare, but an international team of researchers turned to a material called strontium cuprate to investigate it.

Electrons can be bumped up and down into different “orbits” around their host nucleus
The arrangement of atoms in the material is much like the one-lane road: electrons can only move in one direction along it in what is called a spin chain.
The team used the Swiss Light Source at the Paul Scherrer Institut in Switzerland to shine intense X-ray beams into the material, catching the light that came out with precision detectors.
Analysis of how the X-ray beam was altered in the process gave evidence of how electrons were given an energy boost, and where it went.
Thorsten Schmitt of the Swiss Light Source explained that the team made an unexpected find.
They saw that some of the X-ray energy went into raising an electron to a different orbit around a nucleus, and that this “orbital excitation” could move along the chain, bumping an adjacent electron up an orbit, and then the next electron along, and so on.
“We wanted to understand the spinon excitations - we were sure we would see spinons - the surprise was also to get these orbital excitations behaving in a collective way,” he told BBC News.
It is a find destined for fundamental physics textbooks, but Dr Schmitt says that the curious behaviour may help scientists understand equally curious effects in similar materials.
“It’s all basic research but we hope this is very relevant for understanding superconductivity in cuprates, which are made out of the same building blocks.”
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Although this isn’t the first time particles have shown this duality (many bosons do the same thing) this is still fascinating.

what is this duality?

Supposedly electrons are composed of a orbiton and a spinion, and although they can free each other from the electron body, each particle cannot exist individually. They are one in the same, and yet separate.

from reading that I dont think quasiparticles are particles
It sounds like some kind of weird bulk property that they coaxed out somehow that managed to isolate the orbital quantum number from the spin and charge ones. These are values that all electrons have at all times (usually)
but maybe im stupid

That’s what I thought initially, but it seems that the electron has dual components that can be definitely separated.

My head hurts and it’s 2 in the morning…

nevermind; im prob just dense
particle physics is maybe just ttoo crazy for me (I have to unlearn everything to understand it)
but string theory is fiction
hahaa

Some criticisms of the (in)famous Stanford Prison Experiment.

Somewhat disgusting factoid from Neil deGrasse Tyson: the total excess fat of the American people could sustain the caloric needs of every person in Afghanistan for a year.

With enough leftover fat to make candles- perfect for romantically lit dinners composed of human lard.

Stopping brain death breakthrough. The tantalising prospect of treating a range of brain diseases, such as Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s, all with the same drug, has been raised by UK researchers. In a study, published in Nature, they prevented brain cells dying in mice with prion disease.