So I am still really excited for Juri. Yes I think her theme sucks now. Its missing the screams and is too quiet. Something ive noticed and dislike about her gameplay that ive seen (ps4 owner, haven’t been able to practice with her so maybe someone else can chime in here) is that her pressure game is reliant on her charges being stocked. So lets say I open my opponent up which seems difficult to do. In order for me to maintain pressure I…have to back off and restock charges…
This seems like a pretty counter intuitive design option because nothing I have seen tells me that Juri is a strong neutral game/footsie character. I suppose ill know more tomorrow.
Skort
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@Vicioushellsing
She relied on her stores in SF 4 as well,but they were used as a zoning tool as a combo extender ,anti fireball tools, meter building tool, guessing tool ( does she have the high one stored or not, should i jump or not ? ) and so on, while the SF 5 stores are nothing but some fancy looking low damage combo extenders. The old stores had depth, good gameplay and a learning curve.
I do question myself if the storing is even necessary with all her gameplay changes,it just seems like an unneeded tool by this point,mostly still used for the nostalgia factor, can’t even slice as many fireballs thrown at you anymore because you can’t cancel one store into the other like you could in 4.
gigglz
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We’ll probably be switching between charge up combos and using stock combos. Obviously highly depends on how negative charge up is on block (max range block).
But man, switching from Zangief to Juri will probably be like playing on fast-forward with that walkspeed … mhhhh Dont care if she’s “low” or “mid” tier, im not good enough for tiers anyway and everything seems to be better than Gief right now
Or you could just store off a blockstring and stay in their face. You don’t have to double backdash just to store.
Store is -2 on block. On hit you get a safe jump
Garu
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But storing have recovery frames, I dont think you will get many chance to store and when they are fully charged with C.A or some V-Triggers Juri player will be too scare to even try to charge a single move. Storing should.be + on block with push back imo.
kinda mad about this theme. If i end up not liking final product Juri im probably just gonna scrap my copy of the game in favor of KOF14.
i welcome change. i really do…but i think, in hindsight, Capcom changed her too much.
the characters Ryu, Ken, Mika, Chun Li, Karin, Guile, Alex, Cammy, and Urien stayed for the most part the same from their Alpha/3rdS versions…while the rest of cast had radical complete overhauls.
i think they shouldve kept SFV Juri the same as her SF4 version.
i was expecting one extra move, maybe one dropped move(counter)…but not a completely different character. They even changed her music.
tbh, i’m not really hyped anymore.
not hyped to play her. i’ll prob sub her and go back to maining my old SF2 mains of Gule/Ryu.
i’m gonna really hope and pray another Capcom fighter with old SF4 Juri gets made soon.
like Capcom vs SNK 3 starring SF4 Juri.
cuz…meh.
i’m also starting to question the “wisdom” of having changed Sim, Gief, Vega, Ibuki, Rog, Bison, and Birdie move lists to the point they too were unrecognizable to the folks who mained them as well.
Wow you all are salty. Well, when I say you all I mean ‘you all except FengShuiEnergy’ ~_~. Look she is /different/ but 1. she has way more ways to manipulate people into getting hurt 2. she finally has fucking chase. Her dive kick was rarely useful and while I miss it to bits, the tools she has now are both more easily balanced and way more effective given her style. 3. When the hell are you going to use her CA anyway. She has far better uses for her meter… and 4. V. Skill. Dash. Cancel.
She is built /way/ better in this game in terms of what her intended archtype was. She was underused in IV for good reason. They fixed what held her back. This woman is now the spider she was meant to be. Whether or not she sucks won’t be because of her /moves/, it will be her frame data.
That being said, yeah dislikes: Lack of Purple (fuck you Capcom)
FengShuiEnergy seems to like literally everything about her. Like if in her reveal trailer she squatted down and pooped in her hand and threw it at her opponent for a Critical Art, I could see him coming on here saying “I like it, it’s different” lol.
I’m fine with gameplay and design, but everything else is a downgrade from SFIV. And as a Cammy main, that c.mk is horrible. Especially since it was so good in IV.
Garu
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This is just my theory but I think the desicion to nerf her to the grown not just story wise, aesthetc wise, gamplay wise and theme is because she was way too popular and she was stealing the spotlights to Chun li I mean Juri is #2 in popularity in the games she has been way higher than Chun li and you can see how much enfasis they have put on Chun li’s design in all areas imo they are trying to retrieve the popularity she used to have and Juri was an obstacule for that purpose so this are the results.
Only thing I dislike is her CA. I can be more open minded. That’s it that’s all.
Haha I know man I was just kidding. I wish I liked Juri in SFV as much as you do. Luckily, gameplay and design aren’t a problem for me otherwise I’d be screwed.
Garu
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I didnt want to say that at loud but yeah FengShuiEnery likes everything as long as its attached with Juri’s name.Which make doubt if he is a really Juri player or just a creepy fanboy who only love her as long as she still give him a boner.
Bitch please, I’m more of a fan Juri fan then you’ll ever be. Or even hope to be.
I wouldn’t call that a crazy theory…
Or you know, the more logical conclusion that they didn’t fuck her core persona and archtype as much as people are whining about and he just you know, likes that.
Skort
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^ They have changed her gameplay, costume, theme ,status in the story and even the inputs on the few returning moves she still has ( senpusha ). I would call that fucking with her as much as people are indeed whining ( myself included ).
You are veering into wacky conspiracy theorist territory here. Juri was not #2 at all. She is unquestionably behind Chun-li, Cammy and Sakura among the women in popularity making her #4 or possibly #5 thanks to Karin.
She plays a small role in the story because she is a DLC character. She was pegged as a DLC character due to Capcom knowing about high fan demand for her so she was never going to have a large role in the General Story mode from the beginning. Her aesthetics are personal opinion lot of people love her redesign and some love the new effects. The FSE has always been unstable so Capcom toyed with the idea when redesigning her. Gameplay wise she was never popular for her gameplay a lot of people who liked the character never got serious with her in SFIV because of it.
Her theme may be questionable but there is nothing more too it.
