The Spider's Lair - Juri

Stun…Stun for days with Juri!
it’s why I love playing Laura, I can stun people so fast. Juri can do it faster than that with one nice hit confirm.
Hopefully it stays :dizzy:

I was looking at the amount of stun the first combo did in that video I linked and got upset that I couldn’t get a QCB PP in there before the EX dp. Would have probably amounted to roughly 700 stun.

I hope that Jaguar Kick becomes an overhead…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7UaC43-rtcw

Anti-Air combos.

i think this would make her mixup game too strong and they would have to take away several other things she has to make up for it. i’d love to be wrong of course, but i think this might make her too good.

her hazanshu though, that should definitely be overhead, but the only reason its not, im guessing, is because it started off that way but was way too strong so now she lost that too. she’s not going to be a mix up character in this game, just pressure with a freakishly strong tick throw game

What is wrong about having something too strong?? Mika’s mixup game and corner carrier is way to strong, Chunli’s normals and V-Trigger is too strong, Ryu is OP overall, Nash’s dash, super and V-Trigger is too strong, Karin’s normals and super are too strong, Ken’s hit comfirm, V-trigger, V-Skill, corner carrier and special moves are way too strong, Dhalsim’s normals and V-skill are really OP, etc…

The point is do you even play Juri or care about her?? So far she is not good at all she needs somethings to be strong if we want her to be competitive. Have you seen videos were she can inflict stun?? or start attack from the ground?? or usefull mix ups?? I havent.

I don’t see how OH Ryodansatsu could be OP, since it would still be an extremely inferior version of Karin’s Ressenha (longer start-up, 70-100 damage instead of 170-190, more unsafe on block).

i dont know about videos, but i’ve been using juri about 4 hours a day for the past 5 days and she feels really fucking strong to me. When im playing her i see several things that i get the feeling were changed recently to tone her down to being on par with most of the cast.

how many hours have you spent with her yet and why do you feel like she is much weaker than the rest of the cast? right now she has a good neutral game, the best tick throws in the entire cast, and decent but not top tier damage.

edit: starting attacks from the ground… her c.mp is fantastic, her cmk is very good, she has incredible AA abilities, maybe even the best in the game, and she can virtually ignore fireballs with her vskill. how are you having trouble getting an offense started?

Looks like is the first time you try Juri, Ive spent around 4 hours with her in SFV I couldnt play more I got bored and she was my main in SF4 and Ive watch maybe every video on youtube, she sucks really bad. No wonder why floe get depressed after waiting Juri for so long.

sounds to me like you are your own problem. edit: also i guess i should defend myself, juri and kazuya was my team in SFxT. juri wasn’t good enough in 4 for me to play her

edit: also mancubus, what don’t you like about her cmk? it comes out fairly fast at 6 frames, and can be canceled from. maybe its because i’m coming from necalli who has an 8 frame cmk, but right now it seems like juri has one of the best c.mk’s in the entire game. its as fast as ken or ryu but reaches farther and is only -3 instead of -4 on block

Well 4 hours was more than enough to realize she was ass, I dont like playing ass characters her Omega version was ass never cared about her in omega, so I decided to watch a lot of videos from other people maybe I was wrong but I dont think I was.

Her SFxT version was really good and I would love to see some of her stuff from that version like her j.hp with ground bounce, her cr.hp jump cancel, her target combos lk,mk,hk, and her fireballs was better also the only thing I dislike about that version was that she had no FSE

i am very impressed you were able to do breakdown in 4 hours that takes most people weeks or months.

it must have been hard playing against the entire cast and feeling out her matchups in such a short time. how many people were at your house helping you? did you have high quality opponents for each character?

Juri’s C.mk in this game is awful. Please, turn on your PS4/PC, load Juri up and then do a C.lk and then a C.mk. It extends only just byond C.lk. Medium kicks are surposed to be your best pokes, especially the agile female characters (Karin, Cammy, Chun-Li and Juri) but at least she has a decent S.mk (or though it’s slower).

I don’t agree with cr mk being a very good normal. Compared to the SF 4 version it lacks range and dare i say hit stun ?

You have to be dead close for it in order to connect with her fuhajin.

The concern about Juri’s damage output except jump in combos and her ability to open up the other oponent has merit. I don’t see her winning that many battles in the footsies department.

Her fuhajin store cancels into vtrigger into even more cancels look cool and flashy, but it requires bar,trigger and decent execution for about the same damage others do with less taxing resources or execution.

If they wanted Juri to be more rushdown,where are the tools to get in though ? Jump in is not a option vs people that know what to do, vskill charge is mad unsafe, her corner carry is not that great , her normals are average ( except st mk,that one is good ),and her specials are all unsafe on block, even the light pinwheel.

She needs work,hopefully Urien is the one to be released and they take a bit more time with Juri while analyzing feedback from the community,the community that cares though,not the ones that will return to Ken after 2 weeks when the hype train ran out of steam.

Most cr.MK in SFV suck though, to be fair. I mean really, how many good ones are there? I wonder why anyone expected her’s to be really good.

She seems like she’s just a few tweaks away from being really solid, but I’m reluctant to pass any total judgment on her already.

This guys is not even a Juri player he doesnt know what he is talking about, her cr.mk has no range, no low profile and the animation is almost identical to her cr.lk, her cr.mk was really good animated in SF4 had decent range and low profile.

@“Newtype Andy” She is TKD character right?? she should have good kicks Just like Balrog has great punches.

@Skort I agree I really hope Urien is next he looks like 95% finished and he is really, really good and fun.

i can see this is a losing battle.

you’re right mancubus, she has a bad cmk. its as bad as ken and ryu and cammy and its terrible just like them.

and you’re right skort, her “rushdown” is bad, like ken, because all of her specials that move her forward are unsafe on block unless you use meter, and she can’t whiff punish or dash or use a fireball that’s only -1 on block because she is bad.

and you’re right garu, no one should get good with juri in sf5 because she is too ass to bother learning.

enjoy your thread!

Oh don’t sulk. You asked why I thought it was bad and you respond like that? C’mon dude…

@entrerix of course, there will be people that are going to be really good no matter how different she is or how bad, just like with Alex and Zangief but we want her to be good to be competitive, how many Alex or Zangief you see doing good in tournaments. If you enjoy her as she is Im happy for you.