The SFV Lounge: SRK is ALIVE. AE Hype is BACK! DISCORD going the way of DISCO

Trife88 · February 18, 2018, 5:11am

Just another day in SFV is what Jin said
So sad but true, SFV is cool but it is kinda always the same shit
game still needs more variety…these second V Triggers are just a pinch of creativity

Akhos · February 18, 2018, 5:12am

Give Ed a command grab

Darc_Requiem · February 18, 2018, 5:26am

Ryu getting his Goku on

Trife88 · February 18, 2018, 5:33am

Ed has a command grab that’s safe on block :^)

Edit: Also Winter Olympics is coming on at 8PM, prepare for T H I C K Waifus galore hNGGGGGG

Akhos · February 18, 2018, 5:53am

So is anyone here planning on going to Combo Breaker this year? I’ve only gotten a maybe from @MarLonLonMilk so far

Neclord · February 18, 2018, 5:56am

Roses are red
Violets are blue
Sugar is sweet
SFV is trash

NCK_Feroce · February 18, 2018, 6:38am

Outside comboing a Flash Kick into another one,every FK can generate a fireball able to protect Guile recovery and can be used as a regular zoning tool. I have to practice more myself against it, but seems punishable if you’re close enough to reach Guile after blocking the FK and the fireball generated by the latter. The timing seems strict, I’m gonna labbing on it tomorrow.

HNIC_Mike · February 18, 2018, 7:16am

Ouroborus:

Deimos002:

Complaining about Akuma being strong is the same as pointing out Chris T is a whiner.

It’s how it was, how it is, and always will be.

Abi is different because he’s a new character and has low-tier Hugo appeal.
We can’t have a joke character that resembles a low-tier be good, can we?

A character should be good based on his looks and canon. Got it. What are you, like 11 years old?

Intuitive2011:

Akuma will always be strong. That’s just a benefit of being a boss for so damn long.

Abigail was a boss character when Akuma was still jobbing to Gouken. And look at them biceps. You can’t tell me all that muscle should be a disadvantage.

DevilJin_01:

I never really have problems fighting Akuma. No reason why you should have problems playing the against the only good shoto in the game unless your character has a terrible match vs him. Never feel like I got scammed vs him like vs Season 2 Rog. f+HP being minus now is a good deal. Has to use it to hop over an attack to get an advantage and you can take your turn or bait a DP if it’s blocked. Still stupid once he has VTC ready, but that’s fair considering the game revolves around that.

I’ve fought against Drezz, Chris Hu and other Akumas online and the matches feel way fair compared to anything vs Urien, Laura or Season 2 Rog. If you watch people like XsK Samurai or Tokido play Akuma, I’ve seen matches where they’re literally just trying to space c.MK and fireball at good spots to beat really unga bunga characters. Good to see from a character that traditionally has always had the ability to do cheap stuff because that’s his design.

Only characters I still have unga bunga problems with are Urien and Laura, but that’s also due to matchup experience and just the way they work. Everyone else is just another day. Even Abigail it’s just either I get in and win or he gets in and win. Played too many matches in other games that are pretty similar. Nothing new. Never really had problems with Rashid either. He doesn’t kill you fast enough for me to care.

Yet people feel the need to bitch and moan about Abigail. He has bad matches afaik, but losing to him is beneath them instead of just leveling up.

They don’t just lose. They get stomped out in 10 seconds off 1 wrong guess.

I personally don’t feel that strongly about it but these kinds of losses where it’s one coin flip decision into death is very jarring. Its like when you get quick scoped or shotgunned in CoD. We can argue it down to being not that bad but insta death where you don’t feel like you have a chance is poor user experience for many people.

kylebr · February 18, 2018, 8:20am

Combo-wise is perfectly fine, he’s got to burn ex meter on top of it to get more damage.

On neutral it’s kinda unga though. FK turns into a low-committal and decently rewarding neutral tool, specially with one ex bar stocked. AA FK into ex hurt pretty bad.

VT1 allows some nice zoning set-ups, but generally doesn’t lead into big damage unless the opponent is cornered and it’s 3 bars. VT2 seems a bit more well-rounded, easier to use, and you get it faster anyway.

Ouroborus · February 18, 2018, 8:22am

HNIC_Mike:

Ouroborus:

Deimos002:

Complaining about Akuma being strong is the same as pointing out Chris T is a whiner.

It’s how it was, how it is, and always will be.

Abi is different because he’s a new character and has low-tier Hugo appeal.
We can’t have a joke character that resembles a low-tier be good, can we?

A character should be good based on his looks and canon. Got it. What are you, like 11 years old?

Intuitive2011:

Akuma will always be strong. That’s just a benefit of being a boss for so damn long.

Abigail was a boss character when Akuma was still jobbing to Gouken. And look at them biceps. You can’t tell me all that muscle should be a disadvantage.

DevilJin_01:

I never really have problems fighting Akuma. No reason why you should have problems playing the against the only good shoto in the game unless your character has a terrible match vs him. Never feel like I got scammed vs him like vs Season 2 Rog. f+HP being minus now is a good deal. Has to use it to hop over an attack to get an advantage and you can take your turn or bait a DP if it’s blocked. Still stupid once he has VTC ready, but that’s fair considering the game revolves around that.

I’ve fought against Drezz, Chris Hu and other Akumas online and the matches feel way fair compared to anything vs Urien, Laura or Season 2 Rog. If you watch people like XsK Samurai or Tokido play Akuma, I’ve seen matches where they’re literally just trying to space c.MK and fireball at good spots to beat really unga bunga characters. Good to see from a character that traditionally has always had the ability to do cheap stuff because that’s his design.

Only characters I still have unga bunga problems with are Urien and Laura, but that’s also due to matchup experience and just the way they work. Everyone else is just another day. Even Abigail it’s just either I get in and win or he gets in and win. Played too many matches in other games that are pretty similar. Nothing new. Never really had problems with Rashid either. He doesn’t kill you fast enough for me to care.

Yet people feel the need to bitch and moan about Abigail. He has bad matches afaik, but losing to him is beneath them instead of just leveling up.

They don’t just lose. They get stomped out in 10 seconds off 1 wrong guess.

I personally don’t feel that strongly about it but these kinds of losses where it’s one coin flip decision into death is very jarring. Its like when you get quick scoped or shotgunned in CoD. We can argue it down to being not that bad but insta death where you don’t feel like you have a chance is poor user experience for many people.

That’s exactly how it feels playing against Akuma.

HeavensCloud · February 18, 2018, 8:29am

I’d fight Abigail any day over Akuma and Laura. Abi needs maybe a slight damage nerf and that’s it, I don’t see a problem with any of his tools, he’s slow as shit. Akuma and Laura on the other hand can kill you in just as many guesses and they’re mobile.

Evil_Canadian · February 18, 2018, 8:39am

In contention for one of the best videos of all time

Highlandfireball · February 18, 2018, 8:52am

Abi is fine for me personally, I rarely have trouble outside of picking wrong 3 times which is unlikely. I do see the problem though if you don’t have big punishers or good AA.

If you ask me the problem isn’t Abi, it’s Guile. Characters like Abi only exist because of Guile.

Deimos002 · February 18, 2018, 10:25am

[quote=“Ouroborus, post:10960, topic:184212”]

I’m not sure what you’re geting at.
Unless it’s the part about abi.

I like Abi how he is now.
The part about the low-tier appeal is more “what if a shitty character had the ability to kick your ass” sort of thing.

It’s just that people feel they’re free to complain about abi because he’s new, but Akuma is suppsosed to be broken, was my point.

Deimos002 · February 18, 2018, 10:27am

Fuck Vanilla forums btw

Deimos002 · February 18, 2018, 10:28am

Reading my post again, I could’ve phrased it much better to get my point across @Ouroborus

Deimos002 · February 18, 2018, 10:33am

Bruh.

[details=Spoiler]bruh…[spoiler/]

MilesRiey · February 18, 2018, 10:41am

Clandestine · February 18, 2018, 10:53am

Wendy’s on point. I thought the exact same thing when I first saw that picture.
Video of vt2 Guile players irl.

StockyJam · February 18, 2018, 11:09am

Booted up sfv arcade edition for the first time.

Buggy as all hell. Had to put it in windowed mode for now.
Losing controller control. Everything thats supposed to be black like shadows were bright green. Got frozen in the shop and had to reboot game. Flashing screen.

Ugh. Disgusting.