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[Highlandfireball]

we’re talking about a move that needs to be charged with 2 buttons, without any kind of invincibility except for projectiles for its whole 26-30 frames startup (wich is not that great since kkb has more proj. inv.) until lvl 4 (8 seconds of charging) and even then it can be stuffed with a low and it lose to throws (it was mainly used for shimmies and to beat throws on wake up) while being -2 ob at its optimal level (4).
Why should any decent Rog use it now?
People cried about TAP all day long (wich to be honest was understandable, tap was indeed an overpowered move and needed to be at least -2 ob past lvl 4 upward if not even unsafe from lvl4 downward) while forgetting that Rog was still crazy strong without it, how many times have you seen players like Smug and Brian F rely on TAP during tournament matches?
Btw I’m no Rog player, never liked him

I get the whole “holding a button down for a bit” argument, but come on man. Just win neutral without any reactive way to play around it? Maybe they went too far, but its previous interation was fuckall tarded. You can at least interrupt it in sf4 if you were ready for it, then in sfv they said “Ya know what? Just hold that shit or neutral jump” and those types of coin tosses in neutral are unhealthy for the game

As I said before I totally agree with TAP being overpowered before, I still think its a prime example of bad balancing, the move went from being “fuckall tarded” to nearly useless in a single patch. Most of the time the guys at capcom seems unable to get something in the middle of that (and when something seems balanced its usually outclassed by something else), either you have piss easy and super strong throw loops or nothing at all

TAP isn’t supposed to be a legit wake up option. It’s supposed to be a hail mary. It’s a gimmick.

[Trife88]

B L A C K E D C A M M Y

Watch this to last round. Daigo went off and my dick is erect.

Those last 5 seconds had me like

[yung_balrog]

yeah ppl who are playing up rog havent been following him after the patch

• he also lost c. fierce after stomp combo, meaning no heavy upper juggle.
• no heavy upper after cc means you get much lower damage and weaker oki situation. before you got corner carry and + a million lol.
• plaid didnt mention that his cc combos are also unreliable now, unless you go for the minimum damage one.
• many tick throws were also removed.
• command grab is 7f start up and ends far as fuck with 0f advantage. how you gonna steal rounds with that?

thats why i switched to ed and enjoy consistent combos that loop into themselves. B)

[itzpookiie]

You don’t get punished for not being able to 1hit confirm
It’s a great skill to strengthen your game
You don’t maximize your game if you can’t
You lose out on damage if you can’t
You might be thinking of another word
You get punished for whiffing big normals
You get punished for dropping combos
You get punished for bad sweeps
You don’t get punished for not 1 hit confirming

It’s hard to 1 hit confirm in a real match with birdie stmp and you don’t even see menard do often
He drops on hit stMPs
He’s a cap cup champ though

[yung_balrog]

edit: nvm i read the post wrong. lmao

delete this

[Skort]

Daigo back with Ryu ?

[HNIC_Mike]

Daigo back with Ryu ?

Oh wait youre the dude from the brianf twitch chat yesterday. We talked about AA back roundhouse for a second.

So with vt1 you can activate during a jump and get back roundhouse ex donkey hp dp for 218. Beefy AA combo. You might like it since you prefer back roundhouse as an anti air

I still dunno about opting for that over dp tho in non big damage situations. If they back roll or just mix up timings you only got 40 for your AA which would basically make it a 9 frame jab with a better hitbox

[stronzolo]

Brian F is just whining and Rog is easily still high/high mid tier

Watching Brian F stream last night… basically they locked two of Rogs more damaging combos being a 1f link. One is most certainly a bug, in the corner when you go for ex dash punch after rising upper there is a weird delay that you had to do then you have a 1f window to input ex or you corner yourself and make yourself punishable to a 3f. The other is a 1 frame link and its fucking character specific which seems to be a feature of 3.0.

Nevermind fucking tap… basic BnB from balrog were straight stripped away. I’m not going to stand here and have him get the Juri S2 treatment from you niggas either. Not happening.

All the collision changes weren’t properly tested. There is no reason I should be cornering myself on that combo. It’s not just me either, Brian F said he isn’t even going to try it in matches anymore because of how inconsistent it is.

he’s still a powerhouse in the neutral with a beastly mixup game and a great anti air, and not only his VT1 is unchanged but he is among those characters that don’t really suffers too much from the VTC scaling nerf.
Yes his max corner damage is a bit tricky and can get him in the corner instead of his opponent, yes he can’t get his max dmg combo from stomp oh noes that’s terrible.
He’s still one of those character (toghter with Urien and Abigail) that can put you in the corner with massive damage from a read like this one

[KingCrimson]

Guys

Beast_Mode is mobbdeep

The thread is saved

I was wondering where he went after Prodigy’s passing (Member of the actual Hip-Hop group Mobb Deep)

Wait, Prodigy died? When?

He died last year.

Shit, I am a huge fan of 90’s hip hop and I’ve listened to Mobb Deep for a few thousand hours easily. I haven’t really paid attention to hip-hop news in the last 8 or so years because, well, I’m not a huge fan of modern hip-hop, even the cats I liked back in the day who are still active seem weak now, but yeah, that sucks to hear.

[KingCrimson]

Daigo back with Ryu ?

Oh wait youre the dude from the brianf twitch chat yesterday. We talked about AA back roundhouse for a second.

So with vt1 you can activate during a jump and get back roundhouse ex donkey hp dp for 218. Beefy AA combo. You might like it since you prefer back roundhouse as an anti air

I still dunno about opting for that over dp tho in non big damage situations. If they back roll or just mix up timings you only got 40 for your AA which would basically make it a 9 frame jab with a better hitbox

I was testing out B+HK as an AA last night against a dummy Ryu’s Jump + HP and it seemed somewhat unreliable. Is there a trick to it?

FWIW, I found c.HP to be much more reliable but also deals less damage.

[HNIC_Mike]

Speaking of jab i mostly shook the habit a while ago. The one im having a hard time breaking is ryu AA crouch mp. It worked mostly in 2.5 even after the nerf from S1, but with the heavy jump in button buff it gets snuffed out a lot.

Gonna be tough since its the input i get when fuck up a dp motion and its what i default to if someone jumps at max heavy dp range

[HNIC_Mike]

Daigo back with Ryu ?

Oh wait youre the dude from the brianf twitch chat yesterday. We talked about AA back roundhouse for a second.

So with vt1 you can activate during a jump and get back roundhouse ex donkey hp dp for 218. Beefy AA combo. You might like it since you prefer back roundhouse as an anti air

I still dunno about opting for that over dp tho in non big damage situations. If they back roll or just mix up timings you only got 40 for your AA which would basically make it a 9 frame jab with a better hitbox

I was testing out B+HK as an AA last night against a dummy Ryu’s Jump + HP and it seemed somewhat unreliable. Is there a trick to it?

FWIW, I found c.HP to be much more reliable but also deals less damage.

Idk. @Skort was using it a bunch. I usually dp

[DevilJin_01]

Sounds like Rog just needs some launch inconsistencies fixed. With that done he’s still completely better than S2 Juri who still won more CPTs than other characters.

[Skort]

Daigo back with Ryu ?

Oh wait youre the dude from the brianf twitch chat yesterday. We talked about AA back roundhouse for a second.

So with vt1 you can activate during a jump and get back roundhouse ex donkey hp dp for 218. Beefy AA combo. You might like it since you prefer back roundhouse as an anti air

I still dunno about opting for that over dp tho in non big damage situations. If they back roll or just mix up timings you only got 40 for your AA which would basically make it a 9 frame jab with a better hitbox

Spoiler

Hate to break it to you, but i’m not that guy from the twitch chat

[Darklightjg1]

Watching Brian F stream last night… basically they locked two of Rogs more damaging combos being a 1f link. One is most certainly a bug, in the corner when you go for ex dash punch after rising upper there is a weird delay that you had to do then you have a 1f window to input ex or you corner yourself and make yourself punishable to a 3f. The other is a 1 frame link and its fucking character specific which seems to be a feature of 3.0.

Nevermind fucking tap… basic BnB from balrog were straight stripped away. I’m not going to stand here and have him get the Chun Li S2 treatment from you niggas either. Not happening.

All the collision changes weren’t properly tested. There is no reason I should be cornering myself on that combo. It’s not just me either, Brian F said he isn’t even going to try it in matches anymore because of how inconsistent it is.

FTFY. Juri didn’t have that high of a position to fall from. :giggle:

Yeah the collision changes are altering some combos or even making them not possible anymore. I noticed a few for my character as well coming into AE even though they are not as significant/important as that corner juggle. I told my friend who plays Rod to bring it up to Capcom and hope they address it in a patch before CPT. These definitely don’t look intentional.

-Speaking of whack ass execution in combos, fuck Dhalsim’s trial # 4. That shit is more annoying than the Honda trial in SF4 where you have to land the sumo-splash at just the right height and angle to be able to juggle it into ultra. I did it, but I never want to see it again. Even if I see a Sim player pull it off in a match, I’m gonna give him the side-eye like “Really nigga? You really took the time to practice that finicky shit?”. Man fuck that combo.

[Volt]

mother FUCKER

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/219973334?t=1h22m46s

1 hour 22 mins 46 second if timestamp dont work cause it usually dont

Got to play against the DBZ abridged guys in the dbz open beta and they talked me up and it was cool and I was streaming too and like 100+ people came into my stream

then my capture device died right away and everyone left in the time it took me to fix it

Must be awful to have to buy a Capture Device and still have it fail on you at the most important time possible.

Daigo back with Ryu ?

Oh wait youre the dude from the brianf twitch chat yesterday. We talked about AA back roundhouse for a second.

So with vt1 you can activate during a jump and get back roundhouse ex donkey hp dp for 218. Beefy AA combo. You might like it since you prefer back roundhouse as an anti air

I still dunno about opting for that over dp tho in non big damage situations. If they back roll or just mix up timings you only got 40 for your AA which would basically make it a 9 frame jab with a better hitbox

I was testing out B+HK as an AA last night against a dummy Ryu’s Jump + HP and it seemed somewhat unreliable. Is there a trick to it?

FWIW, I found c.HP to be much more reliable but also deals less damage.

Really? It was very reliable in S2. Maybe the jump-in hitbox changes are messing with your timing.

[TWINBLADES]

You guys already know.

Gonna grind SF this weekend and will play everyone here who wants fight. Except for a certain someone here… he knows who he is.

Post the Unity post and we can get to crackin’ boi.

[Frost]

You guys already know.

Gonna grind SF this weekend and will play everyone here who wants fight. Except for a certain someone here… he knows who he is.

Post the Unity post and we can get to crackin’ boi.

https://www.capcomunity.com/devblog/thestreetwriter/wefixedthefuckingnetcodeTwinbladescanplayagainstFrotzeynow

[Hawkingbird]

I’m doing some of the trials. Why the fuck does gief get his own personal announcer when V-trig 2 is activated? It’s fucking annoying.

[Akhos]

After reading through the posts from this morning it’s clear to me that everyone just needs to play Ed