Lol, Jin, if someone is using buttons that stupidly in the neutral they deserve to get CC’d for that stupidity, When she can just dive at him nearly for free.
Having said that, you should use a proper combo. The boys said that only cr.mp combos from the dash so your double medium (which WOULD be fine) doesn’t work according to reports of what Urien gets, and the cr.mp,cr.lp xx head butted gets a lot less range than the double medium or the crouch fierce.
@Dime I guess only being plus 6 to land c.MP is what they mean by “frame advantage severely reduced” on s.HP CC.
Welp, yeah I guess that kinda sucks unless Nemo finds some spaced multi headbutt link.
Not even really because you could link c.MP, c.LP into HP headbutt for slightly less damage (270) still plenty of corner push and easy meaty setup. I’m sure people will come up with something similarly stupid. Even that is still ridiculous meterless with still better oki off a CC than most anything else I know about in the game.
Theoretically everyone just stays outside of Urien’s danger zone with s.HP, but realistically in tournament people get bopped up. You can’t avoid taking s.HP CC completely vs any real good Urien. You just do your best to mitigate the chances.
Abigail will never be toptier. All this fraud Abigail hype is " tireing " because you guys are gonna play someone like me who dont respect nobody and then drop him for your old mains or new DLC aka Sakura.
One Abigail today beat me game 1 abusing unblockables normals I normally avoid and run grab gimmicks I always neutral jump. TLDR: I double perfect him next game and he runs away faster than Twin spams V skill.
I love playing Abigails, free points all day. Oh you got buffed? Cool, step into this blender sir.
I think you can also go for light tackle instead of headbut and keep the combo going with lp xx mp target combo into heavy shoulder to get back the corner carry and keep similar damage
What about Zeku’s EX DP? Isn’t it a multi hit move?
I do agree with you for the most part though. I always felt like all fierce DP’s should be full projectile invulnerable like Guile’s FK. Even though I play Akuma now, if someone can DP my jump ins then they shouldn’t be trading with my fireball or losing out right because I had the perfect angle. Characters have DP’s to deal with aerial approaches, let them do their job.
Funny thing is that Akuma himself has one of the best options to deal with his own air fireball. EX demon flip into EX tatsu is pretty consistent and normally gets around 113-149 damage I think. Blowing meter with Ryu to stop it didn’t hurt enough. You get 80 damage and they have no problem going for it again as soon as they get up.
Yeah, but he can stop short with punch and either make your dp wiff or you might hit the punch for measly damage. But it’s probably the best option if he gets close… then again I think a properly timed punch might still armor through the dp… not sure about that.
At the end of the day I could have done a lot of things… but he seems to have answers for everything. That’s why I said “mixup” you of course have multiple options, but he also has multiple options that beat a lot of options.
Like I can dash backwards or neutral forward or back jump and the flip will beat all of those. I can dahs forward and try to throw him but an armor punch can beat that, or a well timed flip or even his command grab.
I can demo flip grab him if I anticipate the run, but his flip can beat that also.
I can ex dp but he can bait with early punch.
Etc etc
Yeah, why would the dive kick character not dive kick at the character with slow high hitting anti airs when he doesn’t have a charge… idk… got me.
If you jump forward over Abigails head that negates a lot of his run shenanigans , pretty sure doesn’t have anything that can counter those jumps and if you’re in the corner then he will be in the corner.
Also you can just throw him out of runs, it’s unintuitive at first but possible if you just look.
Yeah the 2 players in Master that remember he even has a parry. Pretty much Abilgail player below Diamond falls apart as soon as you shut down their run shinanigans.
I cut his player base alot more slack because he is new but it feels like when they gimmicks dont work they just let go of their stick and let you win.
