The Ryu improvement thread

Personally, I think Ryu is fine the way he is. I don’t think he is underpowered. The only thing I would improve on him, is to allow his overhead to combo into a launch. You can combo the overhead, however you can’t combo it, into a launch. I also think his air tatsu (low) is better than akuma’s. I think Ryu is better than akuma (besides the assist).

What if Ryu in MVC3 could…parry attacks ala P-Groove from CvS2? Would that not be a worthwhile buff?

You can’t combo into the overhead. You don’t have enough hitstun from any other :l: or :m: attacks to link into it. You only get that much hitstun from :h: attacks, which of course do not link into :f::m:.

I suppose my wishlist would be as follows:
~A teeny bit more range on :d::h: so that it can actually combo more consistently after a :d::m:
~Both slow and fast fireballs - I can’t spot any significant difference at present between the different strengths.
~Diagonal fireballs like Morrigan?
~Improve overhead’s damage potential

Shin Shoryuken’s damage is fine since he can actually combo off of it.

I meant, you can use the overhead to go into a combo, however you can’t go into a launch combo.

What about giving him a Denjin Hadouken super? A giant fireball (think like Sakura does) that you can charge. The command could be like HCF+PP or HCB+PP. Uncharged version inflicts heavy amounts of blockstun (enough to leave Ryu at least slightly in frame advantage from fullscreen) and chip damage. If you land uncharged version in a combo (maybe make this require something like Akuma tatsu assist to cover start-up?) it could juggle and allow you to combo for a little more. Fully charged version is unblockable and puts them in dizzy, but is only realistic to land after they do a move with heavy recovery or if you set up for it (think like those C. Viper level 3 focus attack set-ups; Iron Man beam assist, or maybe Dormammu floating bomb, Trish Round Harvest, etc.). You could do various things to balance it vs. Shinkuu: since it’s a fireball and not a beam, it’s already got the fact that you can’t “steer” it. Maybe make it only able to be done on the ground. You can give the dizzy state a special damage reduction (like the kind Haggar gets after landing Hoodlum Launcher).
How does that sound? It gives Ryu something only he can do that’s actually pretty threatening if you smartly set-up for it, the juggle state of the uncharged one still gives him something extra for more common team set-ups, it doesn’t make him closer to being like Akuma (it makes him even more unique, even); hell, it already was a move of his in one of his other games!

ryu with ad is amazing. he was in top level in tvc. nice and fast. he’s a bit slow here.
too bad the wall combos frome teh olden days are gone though.

having the oh actually work would be good.