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Yo I have a question. What ever happened to fresstyles? I mean back when you flowed it was strictly off the top. I mean the stuff I hear now is still dope but it is obvious that they are writtens. So i just wondered when was the transition when you freestyled off the top, to now rapping a more so candid written? I remember in cincy we had Scribbly Jam, and I remember the battles there. Like watching Brother Ali and Sage Francis Battle. Seeing No can do and Illmaculate (when he was super hungry) spit off the top. Maybe I am missing somethin, but how is it freestyle if you are spitting a written.

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The original definition of a freestyle meant a few bars without a topic,just free.But ur right idk when the last time I heard someone go off the top of their head tho.

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A FREESTYLE hasn’t changed by definition, the difference is whats ‘free’. It simple means "I’m rhyming something I’m giving away for free, usually that was off the top - writtens are strictly paystyles (tm E-40). But the bar gets set continiously higher as the years go on, so think about hte BET Cyphers - if those were actual ‘frees’ like off the top, you’d have about 1/3 the quality - including the shady 2.0 cypher.

And alot of people who freestyle/battle actually stil lwrite their rhymes. Jin was notorious for it, he’ll come up with Punches before a fight, and then spend his enenrgy freestyling the filler to rhyme wit hthe punch at the end, which is why he lost battles that went past a certain number of rounds…he’d simply run dry on good shit to throw out.

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Naw, we never had a ceremony because Nathan came along - so the money we had saved for a wedding went into fixing up the house and other matters, so when we renew vows it wil lbe the actual wedding ceremony we never had.

And to me more than 1.5 hours out is too far to expect/ask for anything. I’m still HEATED at my wife for demanding I drive out to WV this Saturday to help move food into a UHaul to drive to local. Its one thing to ask for my help, its another thing to expect me to drive my ass all the way out there because HER mom went overboard on buying food to donate for a school competition. Especially when you factor in the cost of gas these days, I’m going in the whole at LEAST $50 bones on this…better ASK me before you spend my money. I couldn’t imagine having to pay a DJ to drive from NC to Philly - thats what 7 hours for you? Thats prolly close to two tanks of gas…so thats an easy $100 tax ONTOP of the DJ fee. Couldn’t do it haha.

And I can’t renew my vows until the Jordan XV are retored properly. Thats my touch. If I got to where a bum ass suit, I’m rockin Jordans. They are supposed to retro 2012 so we’ll see. But the house comes first before a one day event. And thats 5 years out unless something happens to line our pockets. Shit just cost too much heh.

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824

rae and his crew got a lil too buck wit that beef lol. ya know in retreo that was a bitch move lol…they were supposed to talk if i remember correctly and then one of rae’s nigga just bops him.

825

And where is Joe Budden now? His greatest hit was a string of video vixens, one of which said his dick was trash on camera.

You cant really criticize somebody whos successful. I’m just saying.

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yeah he got sucker punched

and Mickey Factz was there…
And he couldn’t help Joey out…
I blame it on the skinny jeans…[/Royce]

I love what Mannie Fresh said…he called them bitches STOCKINGS :rofl:

so done

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Oh yeah even though Meth, IMO, is a good rapper. And Ace need to move back to the DMV. :looney::lol: I’ll admit that I’m a sensitive person. I’m sensitive upon hearing people or animals getting hurt or killed but I don’t get emotional about it. The only time I ever got emotional was when my cat died back in February. That fucked me up because I was super close to my cat who I had for over five years. Reminds me of this song by Lyfe Jennings called “Cry”.

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7 hours; they are paying hotel stay and gas along with my DJ fee. (check your twitter BTW) Business is business (as in, i’m writing off the mileage), got to think bigger than just towns around here. Also, i’ve already been referred to two other couples, so its well worth it. 1.5 hours?! Come on man, can’t live within a mile/time radius!

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lol. where joe budden now? i dunno being apart of the greatest bet cypher…makin an album wit em and a bunch of beasts. why the hell are you listening to a scorned ex bout a niggas dick. i dont give a fuck bout how he is in bed.

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Oh yeah do you, but I’m saying I’m not willing to do all that haha. It would be easier and cheaper to higher someone local - reffered or not. Then again, I’d be fine with my own playlist, I just know my wife would cough on a piece of broccoli with my track selection…so would her family.
“Why are we dancing to Nature of the Threat?” HAHAHAHAHAHA GAME OVER.

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I can’t front “Me Against The World” is growing on me. There are a few tracks I could live without, but its trynna find a place to sit in me. Better than some of his later work.

Bah I wish I hade my Ice Cube Discography on me. Predator would hit hte spot right now.

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Ummm making great albums… I hope your not basing off sales. He is working with EM now and has always catered to his core fan base. Sure he has had vixens and vida whatever her name is was the one said ‘he was no good’ but when he exposed her ass on song she shut the fucc up quick… in fact all his chicks shut the fucc up cause Joe is that guy that AGAIN will put all the shyt out there even HIS own flaws or mistakes…i think him an tahiry was the only one to continue goin back an forth an like that couple we all know they are made for each other just wont fuccin realize it.

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Yeah they just need to make it offical at this point. Though Joey is too loose for lockdown. shrug.

And VA sux Ace :arazz: I’ll prolly have Nathan with me, Amber wil lbe in Ocean City so I have to pick him up from Clinton. Guess I won’t be too far from VA at that point.

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834

lol rae’s boy tried to get his falcon punch on.

835

We’ll be at Mason most of Friday with Cam (she needs to learn the campus…as she will be going there…LOL) Markdub and Anita will be at dinner as well…missing Koop though :crybaby: LOL

836

I dont see it from any standpoint other than $$$$$ and success. Going off $$$$$$ and successs

Drake > Joe Budden

You cant really come for the ones who are on top. The fact that remains is they are still on top. Thats losing. Which is why I dont see how everybody is coming at Wayne. Like it or not, he’s on top. Evidentely they’re doing something right so if Drake’s sensitive soft ass is kiling the game you cant REALLY say much. Thats just my ideology. It’s dangerously close to hating when you say stuff like “Drake is too soft.”

EDIT: oh and black people dont buy records

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Honestly a lot of the flack that Drake and Wayne get is more so for the questionable stuff like Wayne wearing women pants, kissing Baby, etc. and with Drake its his whole being sensitive stuff. The reality is that people are nitpicking it to the extreme like its a problem.

838

Got you

The Geto Boys - We Can’t Be Stopped. – you most likely never heard this album all the way through. Just the lead single Mind is Playin Tricks on Me. You really need to hear this all the way through. An yes the album cover was made the moment bushwick bill was released from the hospital from shootin his own eye out

Scarface - Mr. Scarface is Back – Defined by gritty rhymes Face stepped out from the geto boys an into my world (an yours) on his solo effort recorded strictly in his basement in a closet.

Gangsta N-I-P - The South Park Psycho – Respected by damn near every artist in the lone star state NIP birthed your psychotic bushwick bill…three 6… pastor troy…brotha lynch and according to willie d possibly the only artist to invite you to a show to get your ass whooped… this album set a different tone from the pure gangsta side of houston an most likely sampled on gangsta albums during the mid 90s

Scarface - The Diary – Get this in your life. Storytelling is a art form that only a select few artist can do over a span of a album…Face does it with precision and detail that at some point you really wonder what the hell he was on.

Eightball and MJG - Coming Out Hard – Memphis was still stuck in the underground we stay in our city type attitude… but Primro and Marlon took sail an put Memphis on the map.

DJ Screw - 3 in da Morning – “who is the king of da south…Robert Davis muthafucca now shut up an sit down” - Pimp C . Trust me there is a screw tape that will appeal to you but 3 in da morning (screw notorious recording time) gives the outsider a look at what screw music is. If i told you one verse on this album created 7 hits during the mid [FONT=Helvetica]2000 texas run would you believe me? Look it up.[/FONT]

OutKast – Southernplayalisticcadillacmusik – “ I rip shyt with pimp shyt im slangin it from the south… talk bad about the A town ill bust u in ya fuccin mouth” – Andre Benjamin. My favorite line from him EVER. I know everyone has their preferred kast album but this set it off an needs to be heard… NEEDS to.

UGK – Super Tight – Not the first album… but a defining album that showed just like outkast that a lyricist and a street smart mc can create a album that’s worth listening AND help define other artist.

Master P presents: Down South Hustlers – The FIRST southern compilation that created paths for unknown southern artist and EVEN west coast and Midwest artist.

Tela – Piece of Mind - - To me… I feel people need to hear this album to hear Memphis soulful/chill side. Jazzy Pha and Tmix worked the hell out of the boards for this album. A must hear for the southern listener.

Goodie Mob – Soul Food - - “What ch’all know bout da dirty south…” – Cool Breeze. Emotion and meaning in a album. 4 SWAT raised mc created a classic underneath the sounds of organized noise.

Master P – Ice Cream Man - - It needs to be heard but please note I had a issue with this album. People say it’s a southern album……its actually a West Coast built album with 2-3 songs actually having that ‘southern feel’. Nonetheless it’s a must and staple in the Percy Miller catalog.

Triple Six Mafia (kna Three 6 Mafia) – Mystik Stylez - - Dark and Gangsta with a touch of the Memphis created Atlanta remade it crunk style. Needs to be heard if you want to hear the beginning sound of Dj Paul and Juicy J (though by the time this album hit shelves they were years in the game).

Eightball & MJG – On Top of The World - - My favorite album out of their catalog. A defining album for not only the mid south but Tony Drapers Suave House imprint that had to contend with crosstown rival Rap-a-Lot.

UGK – Riding Dirty - - When I use to recommend this album… I would give the person a dub of it instead of talking about. Today I will send you a copy of it. It IS a staple of a southern must…a MUST. Pimp C’s creativity and arranging showed Texas as its finest. If Jay Z heard it and loved it during a time where Rap was segregated it showed its power. Get this if you don’t get ANY other album I have listed.

Outkast – ATLiens - - Rico Wade took the lead and set the atmosphere for the album which was rare for the time of album making… top that with arranging by big boi and you’ve created a southern masterpiece. I think there isn’t a person that loves rap that cant say Andres verse on elevators…

TRU – Tru to Da Game - - To me…………THE BEST produced album out of the whole catalog of No Limit. Percy, Vyshawn, and Cory aka Master P, Silkk da Shocker, and Cmurder made sure that No Limit Had a place in the southern sound after returning from mediocre west coast standings with a definite album to challenge a then unheard of crosstown rival… yet that crosstown rival already had

Hot Boyz – Get it How You Live - - The notorious Williams Brothers already was making noise in the NO/Texas (the I10 connection) corridor with previous releases. Yet with the help of Pimp C and Bun B they brought together 4 rappers that would separate themselves an present the PURE new Orleans by way of already established bounce dj/beatmaker Mannie Fresh

5th Ward Boyz – Rated G - - Rap a lot always had something or in this case someone up their sleeve. The 5th ward boyz brought a pure hood album that could contend with the dominance of the west coast during the time.

Three 6 Mafia – Chapter2: World Domination - - It has songs that were banned in clubs… It defined Memphis across the board from gangsta to crunk. I don’t think there is a southern artist that didn’t appreciate that “3-6” shyt. If I had to introduce you to them as a group this would be the album… mystikal stylez was a treat of the old mix tape days. This album showed not only growth but what crunk an gangsta shyt was.

Young Bleed – My Balls and My Word – WHO? Your most likely asking… trust me you know him. A unique voice… selective on his beats that bring that ol’ feel… an a storyteller that makes you feel like one of ya boys tell you a story of everyday shyt. A must listen.

Scarface – Untouchable - - Listen. He made this album cause people thought he retired after the facemob flop. Annnn that ended that.****

Pastor Troy – We Ready - - You most likely remember it as Face Off a few years later. A must listen cause this is a introduction to a energetic and MAD troy… majority of the album was aimed at a then dominant Master P…

Goodie Mob - Still Standing - - Some say ya second album will make or break you… Goodie Mobs second album exceeded expectation and arguably made you forget about the 1st album!

Devin the Dude – The Dude - - This album can be played front to back. Laid back to the fullest and plenty of comedy to boot. Devin made a name for himself outside of his group (the odd squad) with this southern classic.

Geto Boys - The Resurrection – “…you cried when yo granmaw’ died an that was real-- but u aint gotta cry no mo’ u goin to see ya…” - Willie D. I literally dont need to say anything else but listen to this all the way threw an tell em if you dont calm down after bein mad.

I stopped because there are more but I can go on n on n on… so let me lay down some artist you may want to venture into (may add on as i think):

Mia X (get her early stuff… like good girl gone bad)

Mystikal (not always great full albums but still… good songs)

Big Mike (does this bump to you…ok. Find more)

Crime Boss (emotion…gritty. Like doc we lost a great artist due to vocal damage)

NOLA ( you will find these chicks on rap a lot albums)

Playa Fly (possibly the best member to come out of the 3-6 camp)

Paul Wall & Chamillionaire (as a group…)

Lil Keke (the texas don… don’t play…seriously don’t play)

Dj Squeeky (Dj Pauls rival and Unreallystics long lost twin)

Hitman Sammy Sam (the original atl hype man)

Cool Breeze (I actually miss this guy)

Mississippi Mafia (find em an mess ya speakers up)

South Circle (a slept on first album an they vanished into solo world)

Mr. Mike (part of the group above… expect he vanished after a cool album)

Dirty (trust me… these guys are cool as hell…an the FIRST to rep Alabama)

Dj Sound (just find the early stuff if you enjoyed that dark Memphis sound)

Tre 8 (one of my favorite hidden gems outta the NO)

T-Rock (my favorite southern solo artist as of right now… his old stuff still bumps too)

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How does Budden get a pass with his recent antics with women? That entire situation with the most recent chick and the dead baby (or whatever) was a huge L, and should have been kept between closed doors. It came across as bad as anything Drake said on any recent interview, if not worse. You can’t tell me he wasn’t on some extra extra emotional Drake(esque) shit while he was rapping over Sade and Novacane.

Mood Music 2 is probably one of my fav albums/mixtapes, because he does keep it real. Outside of music though, he’s on some next shit when it comes to speaking whatever floats through his mind, and putting all of his dirty laundry / feelings on the table.

Budden’s last “real” album was horrible, and the last Mood Music tape wasn’t up to par either, so it’s not like he’s off being godly on the mic.The Shady Cypher was one of the best verses he’s put together in a while. In fact, his quality dropped since he started focusing on women 24/7.

You’re right though. Drake knows better than to chill with people that cause him issues. I’m pretty sure he already got robbed around So Far Gone / Thank Me Later. He’s smart and learned his lesson. Unless somebody says his name (which nobody does anymore coughPushacough), I highly doubt he would run his mouth(he ethered him in the last interview). Last person he did that to was some lady with power, and he went back and apologized with the swiftness.

840

They don’t like me for some reason, it’s because they don’t like my father. They are trying to take my rights to planning her funeral away. She passed this morning. She is at peace now.