How so?
Because Pikachu is better.
I just can’t explain it any better than that.
But Pikachu honestly doesn’t have anything on Jigglypuff. She has better priority, combos, KO’s, edge guarding, recovery, etc. I just don’t she how you could consider Pikachu better.
You said combo, so I know you are a lie.
Dont get me wrong I still love da puff, she was my main in melee, (and im still deciding between her, D3 and PT for main in this one) but i dont really see “an equal amount of buffs to nerfs” rollout mini-buff is not = sleep nerf, but more than anything I WANT MY F@#$'n CROWN BACK!
What? That doesn’t even make sense. Jigglypuff can combo from the middle of a stage all the way off the screen with Fairs and Bairs. She can even combo off the top with Uair and pound. Plus she has easy combos into rest for some quick KO’s. So you can’t tell me that Pikachu honestly has better combos then that.
Rest did not get nerfed! In Melee rest could KO at like 10 while the average KO was around 80. In Brawl rest can KO at 50 while the average KO is around 120. As you can see the damage difference is pretty equal. Also the hit box for rest is bigger, she has less lag afterwards, and it launches completely vertically upwards. This means you’ll no longer accidentally kill your opponent horizontally and allow them to punish you before you wake up. Plus if you do rest in the water it cancels all your lag. But most importantly of all your opponent no gets a little flower over their head which does damage if you didn’t kill them :razzy:. So in general I feel that rest got more buffs than nerfs.
First thing I did when I got Brawl was play as P. Trainer.
Wow. <3
P. Trainer is pretty bad-ass.
As most of you already know (I’m assuming) he isn’t affected by Stale Move Negation due to Pokemon Change.
And to be good with him you actually need to be good with all 3 pokemon…for the longest time I heard people wanting to main a certain one. Agian something I’m sure you already know.
I play a pretty decent P. Trainer (ask Tigerboi) and I switch when the mood arises.
Or when one of my Pkmn gets the ole KAY OH.
I usually start with Teenage Mutant Ninja Squirtle because at the start of a match he can rack up fast damage. I pretty much play them in order now that I think about it…
Soften them up with Squirtle…Clean up Squirtle’s mess with Ivy and rack up the damage for Lizardon to give the headshot.
But yea…P. Trainer is beastly. Hands down my favorite newcomer next to Snake.
EDIT CANCEL: Some more shit about P. Trainer… (my bad if it’s shit you already know…I just feel like contributing)
Squirtle’s F-tilt links to his AAA combo.
Uncharged Water Gun does damage…like 12%.
Squirtle’s D-Throw + High Percentage = K.O.
Ivy’s Up tilt has invisibility when shes off the ground. I used it to dodge a Marth d- tilt.
Bullet Seed is fucking brutal. But you all knew that I’m sure.
Razor Leaf = <3
Up Smash, Uair and Dair = OMFG KAY OH.
Fair kills as well.
Lizardon’s F-Air is a good jump in.
Flamethrower can be angled up or down. Good for trying to keep people in for the duration. (Bowser can do the same)
Up-tilt links to Up Smash.
and…thats all I can think of.
Again…my bad if it’s shit you already know.
Newsflash: PT’s Pokemon get tired even if you stand around doing NOTHING. LAME but oh well…
Just watch Corner be the biggest, item whoriest, Jiggz player and watch him win the tourney tomorrow.
Jigglypuff + Fan = [media=youtube]T6Lex47I7SI"[/media]
Sadly I won’t be in the tournament tomorrow considering I still don’t have Wifi for my Wii. Once I do get Wifi, you can expect me to be at every single online tournament and play a thousand online matches a day.
Has anybody noticed how much range Charizards d smash has? Dang!!!
I like using Pokemon Trainer, although I’m not very good at any of the Smash bros. games. Some things (which may be old) that I noticed…
Charizard - Forward B move is a lot better than I thought. It hits twice and the rocks that get crumbled is also part of the hit box. And yes, his down smash is pretty nasty.
Ivysaur - Up air is pretty damn insane. Up Throw into Up air has given me a few kills. Anybody use bullet seed while on the edge? It’s not really edge guarding, but if your opponent is clinging to the edge and jumps, simply bullet seed and it’s a pretty safe way to put in more damage.
Squirtle - I don’t really like using him, to be honest. I do start the match off with him, but that’s just to start things off. I’ll switch if/when I feel I need more damage and will rarely go back to Squirtle. I can say that his up smash is really good. I think his down air is a good move, but I don’t quite know the priority yet.
try wavebouncing the forward B it makes for a pretty retarded poke.
Other than that charizards d-toss holy crap at the knock back, and same goes for any of his attacks with his tail if you hit them with the fire spot.
I’ll definitely try that! Except…how do you wave bounce? Haha. I guess I need to check gamefaqs for universal command moves.
google wavebouncing basically press forward B then immediately press the other direction and experiment around with it, with some chars, this is almost a must with others its just a neat extra to your game. Its pretty obvious when you wave bounce you immediately reverse your momentum.
i loves my squirtle… and charizard is great for KOs, recovering, spiking. i don’t really like ivysaur that much, seems too slow imo and his up-b is easily gimped. and like all his kills are too slow compared to charizard’s.
WISE FWOM YO GWAVE.
Lucario, after several tournaments, seems like he may be slightly better than PT, and worlds better than Pika.