Finally an ADC that looks fun.
Literally no ones in here raging about ok Revenant lol?
I haven’t played Paragon PVP in at least 2 months. Got frustrated with the playerbase learning the game so slowly. I’m still keeping tabs on things and will probably get back into it after I clear a bit of backlog or significant enough changes are made to make me hop back in.
I’m probably one of the players that pissed you off. My one issue is that it’s a card based system. If you don’t know how to build a balanced deck that works correctly, you’re not really gonna do anything in the game.
Epic has admitted that the card system has issues and they’ve been working on a revamp. However, I don’t feel that the issue that I believe is the core of what’s bugging me - it’s bad decision making. The one thing that frustrates me the most is the lack of common sense. People doing the same thing over and over to negative results and continuing to do it. Things didn’t get better over time and it got to the point where I was winning games and still pissed off.
Paragon is like 80% decision making. The technical ability required to play Paragon isn’t very demanding - it’s mainly focused on reading the map, reading situations, digesting information and making the best decision possible. When teammates consistently displayed the lack of ability to make good decisions, I knew it was time to take a break. I can’t count how many times defeat was snatched from the jaws of victory b/c of teammates lacking fundamental understanding of the weight of their decisions.
I DO NOT blame them. Paragon’s playerbase in general is new to MOBAs, so I get it. I’m just not gonna waste my time while the playerbase catches up.
What’s there to rage about?
He’s actually pretty balanced.
The only questionable thing In his kit is the fact that his ult isn’t a true 1v1.
Speaking of,
https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/v42
I’ve been watching the tutorial streams the past couple nights and it’s finally time for me to get back into Paragon. I’d been toying w/ the idea on and off for about a month, but w/ them finally putting in the new card system, I’m all in again. Do yourselves a favor and check out the update page along w/ Agora.gg which has a list of all the new cards.
Some quick FAQs:
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[] You will lose all your cards, mats, etc - but they will be replaced w/ TONS of stuff. Epic employees have stated that if you have all the cards now, you’ll probably have all the new cards in v42 once you open all your loot.
[] The focus won’t be on building stats (for the most part), instead it’ll be building abilities and perks.
[] Decks can be used w/ any heroes. No longer locked to specific heroes.
[] Iggy and Scorch got a rework!
[*] Crowns!
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There really is a ton of stuff to go over when v42 hits. It looks like we’ll have to learn the game all over again, but it seems more than worth it.
@CTG what was your epic id again? Get some games in with everyone here. This new update has me excited for tanks. Watched a Severog game and it got me excited to play Riktor again.
Sucks about the server issues today. Feel sorry for anybody that took the day off to play. I was able to get on the server around 10p. Played a bot game (Offlane Aurora) and messed around creating a new deck. I’m only missing 1 card from each affinity, which is pretty great.
The biggest change for me is definitely going to be the new control scheme - everything else is pretty easy. The new card system seems complicated until you do that first bot match (they force you to do it) and everything just clicks.
YOU HAVE TO DO A BOT MATCH BEFORE YOU CAN BUILD A DECK. This is how they force everyone to through a mini-tutorial of the new system.
I want to try Aurora, Countess and Shinbi in the jungle and some creative stuff w/ Kwang, Greystone, Belica and Wraith.
Overall, this update is an enormous step in the right direction for Paragon. Love it.
This shit is wild y’all.
Don’t have supports down yet, but my Countess build? Good lord this game is broke lol. Got half a game in before the servers went down, said I left. Banned my account for a week lol. Least I made an alt account when I forgot my psn password.
And fuck that new control scheme. Changed that shit back to Legacy Controls real quick. Even then I have to get used to tapping L2 as opposed to holding when I wanna upgrade an ability, acvidently bring up the card shop & get blew off lol.
I’ve got a nice early game jungle build - working on a transition to late game. Wasn’t sure Aurora could jungle, but she can wreck shop.
I’m not really feeling the Order cards - not really my style. Knowledge has some really dope ones I’m making use of though. This system is going to get crazy when they start adding more cards.
Have you all seen anyone drop wards yet? Cuz I haven’t seen anyone drop wards yet. lol.
People arent buying wards or vision cards and then bitch to the devs with stealthed enemies blow their asses out right now.
I run vision cards on most of my non tank decks as contingencies for if I’m against Kallari or someone using stealth cards.
I think the issue is that w/ only 3 card slots, getting vision of any kind is pretty expensive. I think once they add more cards that give you some sort of vision along with decent stat buffs, things will get better. I think there are certain affinities w/ no vision at all.
Also, I’ve been running stuff w/ Countess jungle lately. I run her Knowledge/Death. It’s a slow start, but if I can get a clean first 5-6 minutes, it’s too late for the opponent to do anything about it.
Been experimenting a lot w/ Aurora as well and she’s definitely versatile enough to run jungle, offlane or support. She’s scary in all those roles.
Order is the only affinity with wards if I remember right. I usually run Countess mid since any time I wanna go off lane there’s always a whiny wukong. I dont even like playing her anymore tbh. Too easy to get her up and running & just start two shotting people.
Wards and vision cards are for flex. You get 12 cards per deck and 3 slots.
If you have an enemy Kallari and she’s puttting in work, or they have a Countess with Shadow Dancer, putting on a ward card or something like Outlander Scout if you’re a carry can decide the game.
Wards aren’t the only way to have vision on the map.
You have Outlander Scout for Chaos which gives a constant AOE of true vision around the character, you have finder of play things for Death that slows a marked target and also reveals the entire enemy team for a bit. You also have Shadowdancer which puts you in the shadowplane and you can see others in it.
The only combination in which you don’t have the option a flex vision card is Growth/Knowledge but the only time you would probably select that is as a tank who more than likely would be too beefy via base stats and card choice to be taken down by Kallari or Countess easily. The devs also states they’d making vision cards for these two affinities.
Also about Countess, of all the suppposed “OP” characters right now her win rate in PvP in non-mirror matchs is currently about 50% in higher ranks, which is normal.
This is because she has multiple extremely hard counters that veteran players actually use.
I mean there are cards that demolish her, like the Intellect card that blocks 85% ability damage for 6 or 8 seconds(I forget which) and the card that silences an enemy for a bit and makes them take 15% extra damage. The chaos card that reflects 65% damage taken, the stasis cards, and the teleport cards are also options to avoid being deleted by her.
These cards counter her hard, but also come with a regular stat boosts and are powerful against everyone else as well so you aren’t giving up anything to have them as flex.
Only character that’s overly strong atm is wukong. Countess has plenty of counters (lololol throned yomi + 10% damage return = 75% reflect and that broad is dead always)and kallari while strong is still crap with proper vision.
Wards aren’t expensive imo 300 gold is piss easy. I run order a lot in offlane and of course support and manage to get my necessary cards and lamplighter when I need it. Not to mention with lamplighter you’re able to have 3 wards up at a time. Ward, back, ward again with quick exit speed and map is lit up.
Not to mention cards like finder of playthings so every 1min and 15secs you can check the entire enemy team’s position.
Aurora has been my shit lately since grey got nerfed and ult has glitches.
Build her with Growth Totem, Shadow Dancer and One of the Tribe. Wreck team fights for fucking free.