*The "padhacking" thread*

what is this thing with resistors you guys are talking about, cause ive done 2 sticks with xbox controller s and i did not know you have to put resistors in it:wtf:
the sticks work fine, the only thing i dont know how to connect is the L & R buttons, most games dont use this but the ones that do requires you to use them to access something

example: Guilty gear reload for xbox, you need to press i think L or R in order to access gold characters or something which is anoying cause i dont have the button on my stick and the option of changing the button to for selecting gold characters cannot be changed i think.

example: KOF neowave Xbox- you need to press R button to access secret char, again this option cant be changed, and i dont have L & R:wasted:

example: Mortal Kombat Deadly alliance you need to press L to input password something i cant do cause i got no L & R:wasted: :annoy:

anyways i am wondering where exactly do i need to solder in the xbox controller S pad to get L & R, i know its no big deal and i can live with not having L & R but i am currently playing neowave and i cant select the secret characters:annoy:

PS: anyone know where to solder in a HOTROD PC arcade stick PCB??? i got one cause i used the hotrod stuff to make my xbox sticks

nevermind i i found out where they go for both L & R and you do not need to put resistor in it they work just fine, so now all the buttons on the xbox s pad can be connected :wgrin:

ill take pics later to show you guys where to solder.

question about grounds

for this tutorial : http://home.comcast.net/~spiffyshoes/DualShockHack/

Do you daisy chain the 1 ground wire to every pushbutton and every direction on the joystick?\

And Also what is the Analog wire used for exactly?

analog isn’t used for anything.

And yes, every ground on the buttons and stick switches.

Xbox 360 PCB

Im new to the wiring on pcb’s. I know on the stick you can daisy chain the grounds all together then attach to a barrier. Would you do the same for pcb ? Daisy chain all the grounds together to one ground on a barrier. Im mainly concerned if im using a project box with a db15 or db25 . What is the best way ? ??:confused: :confused:

I have the same question.

I’ve just cut up a HRAP wired all the buttons to one ground and put a 25-pin male parallel connector on the end of it all.

http://www.lyndley.com/images/hrap2.jpg

First job was to get it working with the DC so I hacked up a pad as per the guides and it works a treat. :lovin:

http://www.lyndley.com/images/hrap-dc.jpg

The thing is I’m now looking at hacking an XBox pad but it seems, according to the xbox link in the first post http://arkadesticks.com/hackedpads/XboxS-Pad.jpg a bunch of resistors are required on the ground lines of each button which means that having a common ground inside the joystick doesn’t really work. :confused:

The way around this would have been to wire each button its own seperate ground line but to do this for all the switches in the HRAP would mean 14 seperate grounds and therefore would need at least a 28-pin connector as interface to the adapter! (25-pin is the biggest I know of)

So I’m wondering what’s the best way ahead with this to build a platform agnostic joystick and adapters for each platform?

I tried to scrape it off but it’s not copper colored. more of a grayish metal. is that ok or do i have to scrape more to get to the copper?

will the spiffyshoes tutorial actually work for a PS2 dual shock? if not can someone help me out with a tutorial on this particular controller.

So, yo did it just like the image and you have no lag issues???
Please confirm it, 'cuz i’m into that for sure!!!:lovin:

Spiffy said it would work fine.

anything for the Logitech Cordless Action?

http://www.logitech.com/lang/images/0/12106.jpg

I had issues modding a PS2 dual shock. it seems to have three seperate ground lines, wiring them up together for the usual shared ground setup on a joystick resulted in the PS2 seeming to think certain buttons were being held down though I could find no short in my wiring at all.

As with these things there may have been a fault in my wiring (was a very tight soldering job) and shared ground may not have been an issue but in the end I just scrapped it due to the bother of un then re-soldering it and bought a cheapo PS1 dualshock off ebay which is currently sitting here waiting to be wired up. :tup:

can someone exlpain to me why everyone wants the psone duel shock as opposed to the original ps1 pad? It seems just like an extra hassle to me.

DS1 has the best compatibility with converters/adapters. The regular digital pad works great if you plan on only using the stick for PS.

~Paik

Does anyone here have a tutorial for SFAC pads? namely, for xbox? thats all I have to chop up at the moment.

Agreed. If you use the digital pad for xbox through a converter (of 4 tested) it will rapidly input all buttons and directions at the same time.
Although they seem to be fine for dreamcast with the EMS converter.

Does anyone have a tutorial for the Hori DOA4 Stick for Xbox 360?

Quick question about a ps1 analog pad.
It’s supposedly a series A, although it looks nothing like the series A shown in spiffy’s solderless hack, looks a lot closer to the series H shown before. anyway, is it possible to cut the connection between the bit the analog sticks are on and the ‘main’ pcb and still have the rest work?
I ask as the 'sub’pcb that the analog sticks are on is cracked and I need to know whether I can continue or just to throw it out.

It depends. Does the crack sever any traces? If it does scrap it and get a new one. The analog sticks are necessary for the stick to work properly, if they’re cut off the stick will bug out on you. If you’re not using converters just use a sony digital pad. Smaller and less parts to screw up on you.

Does anyone have solder points Map out of Ps1one official analog controller (grey), damn solder points are tiny :(, sorry no model number

cheers