Fave starters: Charmander/Cyndaquil/Mudkip*/Turtwig. Will choose Totodile now and then, and hope that Piplup is as good at advertised (that final evo is badass).
*But I liked it better as Wooper/Quagsire lol.
Fiddling with the RBY-GSC time machine feature today (first time on emulator). I’ve always wondered how my old Gen I powerhouses would fare in Gen II. Also good for Yellow and its pesky no-evolve Pikachu.
Chimchar and Mudkip all the way, not saying cuz they beast in the metagame so, they’re just cool to have all around.
Best Starters:
GEN1: Charizard
GEN2: Ty
GEN3: Swampert
GEN4: Ape
Clear fire dominance, probably why GF punishes fire trainers with a tougher journey.
I thought Fire had it easy in Gen 2. Bellsprout Tower and Bug Gym early on made for quick leveling up (the Mud Slaps of the Bird Gym didn’t really hurt). But yes, I can see that happening with the others.
best starters are
gen1: squirtle
gen 2: cyn
gen 3: mudkip
gen 4: infern
at least for ingame
I agree with the last three, but I’d argue Bulba is better than Squirtle when it comes to gyms. Squrt and Bulba both have offensive advantages against the first gym, and Squrtle can match Misty, but Bulba dominates against her and has a defensive type advantage against Lt. Surge and Erica, can resist the poison attacks by Koga, and only starts to have trouble on Sabrina. Also, as part poison, it doesn’t have to worry about the poison attacks all the early game bugs seem to have. Char has a rough start, but ends up having the strongest offensive final evo for all your trouble. Outside of gym fights, Char is probably the winner, especially since there’s no Stealth Rock in first gen. I see Squirtle as the middle ground.
I still like Squirtle better, though, and I usually go for the water starters except for 4th gen cuz Turtwig is just too awesome.
Bulbasaur sucks, plain and simple. probably the worst starter overall in terms of typing/attack stats etc
plus he looks like shit. fuck him. i never liked him…and i’m not saying that cuz i’m drunk right now. he sucks period
While bulbasaur not being my favorite starter. I thought he and his evols were pretty good defensive pokemon. : [
Just got wi-fi up again at my house. Is there anybody here who can tell me my secret ID if I trade them a Pokemon from my Soul Silver?
bah I admit I didn’t like gen 2 starters…at all. forced myself to pick one. since i went water I went with Totodile
I really didn’t like the Chikolita line. Loved Feraligatr… Croconaw and his spotted Tarzan tights, not so much.
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Venusaur was okay. Def not high-level (in OG games) since it’s so Psychic-dominated, but it can rape everything else. Razor Leaf on even Poison or Fire types can do a lot of damage (and critical often I reckon). I found it more appealing than Treecko/Chikolita line at least. Turtwig might be the best for me as far as plant starters go, though… hm I seem to like my plant dudes as tanks.
Also, Gold-Silver nostalgia time!
Sadly still at D/Plat and not on HGSS yet, but I heard they made it even worse. :lol:
Agreed. Bulbasaur has great stats and a decent movepool. It’s only problem is that it’s a Grass type, which is inherently inferior. Blame gamefreak for not buffing Grass a little.
Make Poison Super Effective against Water DAMMIT!!!
Not even for ingame. Blastoise is the worst starter in G1 because there’s was a abundance of other water types that clearly showed better potential than him. As a starter, you shouldn’t have to fight for slots but that’s how people generally perceived Blastoise. His job was suppose to be a bulky water type, but simply got overlooked for A LOT of ingame Gyarados. Starmie, Slowbro, and perhaps Closyter get some honorable mentions. Two of those pokemon can defend just as well as him, even Acid Armor Vaporeon gets some consideration. Another name to toss out is Lapras, who gets dual stabs and just as much defense as Blastoise.
Charizard has one of the worst typings in pokemon history, he must down is opponent or face getting super effected 40% of the time. Despite all that, there weren’t a lot of good fire pokemon that could do what Zard was capable of. There wasn’t many pokemon that could use HM Fly that well either, there’s a lot of factors you face when choosing your starter. Venasaur was super weak to dominating psychic users, and poison moves really didn’t have the base power capabilities like they do now. Back then, they just had an annoyance of causing a status change.
Nobody seemed to like the G2 starters 
Not so much that it’s a grass type, because ingame grass types are pretty good. In G1, every grass type was part poison, so most suffered due the abundance of dominating psychics. It’s the same way with rock types, every rock type was part ground. So essentially, they were X4 to a lot of things and wouldn’t survive a blow from.
Poison should be super effective against Ice or Rock.
I am aware of the Grass/Poison prevalence before, but Grass/Poison isn’t as bad as it used to be, it actually boasts quite a few useful resists (like Fighting)and gains nice neutrals. The problem lies in the fact that 3 out of the 5 Grass weaknesses are very common, and most Grass Pokemon only have faux-counters to these types. (i.e. Sleep Powder, Ancientpower etc…)
Poison pollutes water logically, and Water is a pretty overpowered type by default. It would be a good balance IMO. It would also give Poison type attacks worth other than random STAB.
Don’t try to bring logic to the Pokemon games, things would just get way too complicated :lol:
so round 2 of zenken vs rng breeding
zenken fails 1 million+ times
zenken sees my starting frame is 4 not 3
finds different spreads
hits
realizes instead of 31/31/31/17/31/31 for tangela he gets 31/25/31/17/31/31
zenken is not happy
trys again with different spread with SS starting on frame 2
gets 31/30/31/31/31/31 impish tangela
zenken is happy
So now Gyarados and Mojonbo are on my mixed tier team. Mojonbo is thanks to Syberia’s flawless Ditto.
I’m pissed. Right after I got my normal Shaymin I saw how nice a shiny one looks. :sad:
I found a pokemon 2d fighter.
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I am saddend by one thing in the next pkmn game…no matter what we battles want things will remain geared towards the JP play style of doubles battles…
We should protest. Man watching Japanese battles makes head hurt, they’re playstyle is so counter-intuitive it’s like they’re trolling themselves.
it will forever drive me insane to know that the Japanese are like this for RPGs. they refuse to change according to how others play aside from their own selves.