The Official Offseason 2016-17 NBA Thread: Waiting for Preseason

Just remember this is Melo’s team guys.

I could easily argue that Melo is the worst Knick of all-time. He has been a cancer to this team from the minute he got here. 5 coaches in 5 years, that’s all you need to know. He has no idea how to win.

Agreed. But the more I think about it, the more I think that he’s lying anyway and he used the “family emergency” as a cop out because nobody is going to call that bluff.

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That loss to the Timberwolves was waiting for a while. They should have won the first meeting but have a weird mental block on how to close out games. Thankfully Capella is on schedule on his recovery and should be back after the all star break is what I’ve read, now on Gordon I’m not so sure they have said day to day so they might be saving him for the big games coming on this month.

Derrick Rose wants a max contract. Stuff like this is what I’m trying to tell the Suns fandom about their lust for Cousins: sometimes exceptional talent isn’t worth the even more exceptional headache they’ll bring to the locker room, especially if it doesn’t help to win games.

God that last defensive play was just…WOW

Not even a Knicks fan but jesus lmao

Derrick Rose and max contract do not go together.

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jokic tho.

over eddy curry? over bargnani? balkman? jerome james?

new york suffers from dysfunction, and they keep roping themselves into circuses. carmelo went there for non-basketball reasons, and for a very very long time, the knicks have been a non-basketball team. they still make a shit load of money from fans that take in a poor product (not judging… long time warriors fan), still sell out from other events, still allow james dolan to drive everything he touches into the dirt.

not very often do people succeed in environment they aren’t set up to succeed in, and i think its super true for nba players. look back through the knicks and try to find a successful winning move since 2000 outside of carmelo, chandler, JR which was destined to blow up eventually. i don’t think any one player deserves the blame for the knicks state. warriors were in the same boat, made a meaningful change at the top, and are now an elite team because they stopped being an organization that loved making bad decisions. difference is, knicks just can’t remove dolan because he makes so much money from msg that you can’t just buy him out. and undo’ing the damage from the isiah years and the larry brown gamble isn’t exactly an easy job.

but carmelo being the worst? when carmelo is done in NY, he won’t leave a gaping hole that lasts for years to repair. he also took the team to a second seed in 2013 playoffs and won 2 series that year, with 3 straight playoff appearances after his trade to the team. at the end of the day, carmelo at least gave the knicks something. there’s plenty of players from the isiah era that did nothing but damage that team for years…

Melo being the worst Knick ever is the biggest stretch imaginable.

The Knicks haven’t won a championship since my dad was a teenager, and he’s close to 60. You can’t blame any player for decades of poor team management and construction.

Melo is who he’s always been, a scorer. They don’t know how to build around him, which goes back to my previous point on poor team management. JR and Shump just won a championship. Knicks won 54 games just a few years ago with these guys, and Knicks gave them away like it was nothing.

i painfully watched how a Patrick Ewingless (wrist injury) beat my Pacers only to get smoked by the Spurs back in 98/99. Spreewell/Houston combo was fun to watch

Awe man I’m loving the “Area 21 w KG” now

Stay roasting Charles…

Did you guys assume xer watched the Knicks before 2014? Damn deplorables.

got damn watching Rose glide through the air like that is magical

How the fuck did the Pacers let the Nuggets score 140 points? Are you serious?

Pacers should’ve taken that dunleavy contract to help that tank.

Why is ZaZa the leading vote getter for west centers?

Same reason Tristan Thompson has more votes than Whiteside. Being a team in the spotlight gets you all the casual fan love.

Bulls without butler makes the knicks better. They don’t even have kp.