The official Cthulhu and ChImp thread - Try our new Dreamcast flavor!

Darksakul · May 21, 2015, 7:38am

DacoTaco:

DacoTaco:

i hate double posting, but its a added bump & notice for change XD

i connected a female RJ45 jack to the nes connector , connected it to a snes controller (which has a RJ45 jack in the same layout as MC cthulhu, so i could share the snes connector with my stick and keep the controller) and it worked. i connect the NES connector to the stick and it doesn’t. meaning the factor of a broken connector is out of the question. what i did notice is that when i connect the stick the nes seems to get a signal everything was pressed (meaning according to documentation on http://pinouts.ru/Game/snescontroller_pinout.shtml , that the whole data line (pin 4, connected to C ) was pulled low? o_O;

PS : this is a pal nes im working with btw

sorry for the bump, but after 2 years i figured it out.

apparently PAL nes has different controllers and connectors. as in, the connectors have diodes that prevent US/JP controllers from working and the controllers have 2 resistors to compensate. a lockout system if you will.

there is a mod to make the NES work with all NES controllers (basically bridging the diodes on the connectors pcb) and the MC Cthulhu works now. hoozah!

EDIT : for more info see http://retro.mmgn.com/NES/Forums/Nes-Controller-NTSC-to-PAL-Conversion

There is a similar lock out in with the PAL SNES, the mod for that is to find the board that holds the controller ports in the console, replace the diodes with straight wire or bypass the diodes with some wire.
Pal SNES controllers work on NSTC SNES consoles just fine.

Looks like the solution to both is to just mod the console.

DacoTaco · May 21, 2015, 10:29am

Darksakul:

DacoTaco:

DacoTaco:

i hate double posting, but its a added bump & notice for change XD

i connected a female RJ45 jack to the nes connector , connected it to a snes controller (which has a RJ45 jack in the same layout as MC cthulhu, so i could share the snes connector with my stick and keep the controller) and it worked. i connect the NES connector to the stick and it doesn’t. meaning the factor of a broken connector is out of the question. what i did notice is that when i connect the stick the nes seems to get a signal everything was pressed (meaning according to documentation on http://pinouts.ru/Game/snescontroller_pinout.shtml , that the whole data line (pin 4, connected to C ) was pulled low? o_O;

PS : this is a pal nes im working with btw

sorry for the bump, but after 2 years i figured it out.

apparently PAL nes has different controllers and connectors. as in, the connectors have diodes that prevent US/JP controllers from working and the controllers have 2 resistors to compensate. a lockout system if you will.

there is a mod to make the NES work with all NES controllers (basically bridging the diodes on the connectors pcb) and the MC Cthulhu works now. hoozah!

EDIT : for more info see http://retro.mmgn.com/NES/Forums/Nes-Controller-NTSC-to-PAL-Conversion

There is a similar lock out in with the PAL SNES, the mod for that is to find the board that holds the controller ports in the console, replace the diodes with straight wire or bypass the diodes with some wire.
Pal SNES controllers work on NSTC SNES consoles just fine.
http://www.mmmonkey.co.uk/using-import-joypads-on-the-pal-snes/

Looks like the solution to both is to just mod the console.

I knew about the snes stuff, But the cthulhu works just fine on my snes, otherwise i would have found the solution long ago i think.

Now that i think about it, thats just weird that it works with my snes. Ow well … xD

Cicada88 · June 4, 2015, 8:27pm

Any information about wiring up MC Cthulu cable for the Famicom 15-pin Auxiliary Port? I know I would need a NeoGeo DA-15 Extension cable, but I can’t find info about the wire sequence.

Darksakul · June 4, 2015, 9:26pm

Yes you need the same kind of cable as the Neo Geo controllers would use as its a deeper DA-15 port.

I had soldered together a few Famicom DA-15 to NES adapters before.

Here is a few links I had booked marked, I hope they help
http://wiki.nesdev.com/w/index.php/Famicom_expansion_port_pinout
http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=8490331
http://www.raphnet.net/electronique/famicom_to_nes/index_en.php

http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=3583.0

What I would do is wire up a NES to Famicom Adapter so in the future you have the option of using a 2nd NES controller for player 2.
it also allows you to use a US NES Zapper with the Famicom.

Don’t worry about the D3 and D4 connectors too much, they are only used by special controllers like the Zapper.
The MC Cthulhu has no use of these.

[Edit]
This chart would be the most help

Cicada88 · June 5, 2015, 2:49am

you’re the man dark, looks like the info I need

Smazzurco · June 7, 2015, 6:36am

Pretty sure I have a 360 TE modded with a Chimp and when i plug it in my ps3 now the controller LED just flashes…if i press 1p+2k+3P then it double flashes…any idea what is going on?
Thanks

Vicko · June 11, 2015, 8:34pm

could be a bad usb cable

nonosto · June 16, 2015, 1:37am

Please,

What’s the latest Multi-Console Cthulhu Firmware, and where can I find it?
At the first page indicate Multi-Console Cthulhu Firmware v23, is it the last?
What’s 10ms and 1ms speeds for PC/PS3 play hex?

Thanks

nonosto · June 16, 2015, 5:09am

edit for error

Darksakul · June 16, 2015, 7:40am

It be on godlikecontrolls.com

nonosto · June 16, 2015, 3:07pm

Thanks

unfortanally not…maybe I dont find it

Darksakul · June 16, 2015, 5:01pm

Opps I forget the links are kind of hidden, this is copy and pasted from page 1 of this thread.

MC Cthulhu newest firmware: http://www.godlikecontrols.com/download/cthulhu/MCCthulhu23.zip

MC Cthulhu Variations firmwares: http://www.godlikecontrols.com/download/cthulhu/MC_Variations.zip

As of right now v 2.3 is the newest firmware.

For the MC Cthulhu they are part if the flash update, the 10 ms file is only if you have stability issues with the 1ms version.
It is detailed in the read me txt file.

Slightly off topic but I say it just for everyones benefit
Keep in mind the PS3/PC version of the board is not reflashable, only the MC Cthlhu version.
You will need the MC Cthulhu Upgrade Kit $12 to upgrade a Cthulhu to a MC Cthulhu

240pWOW · June 22, 2015, 5:58pm

edit, ignore

623pluslightpunch · June 23, 2015, 6:19am

Would there be any way to wire the cable from a Dreamcast controller to the PCB?

Darksakul · June 23, 2015, 6:29am

liero116 · June 26, 2015, 10:38pm

So I was looking on Focus Attack for a new PCB and found this:

http://www.focusattack.com/toodles-cthulhu-multi-console-pcb/

In the description, it says it supports Smash Bros with a special mode. I can’t find any information on this mode, though. Any one know what exactly “Smash mode” is? What does it do the the controls that is so different from normal controls?

MenSol · June 27, 2015, 2:34am

I have the MC Toodles in a HRAP3 that has worked perfectly fine for a few years up until a few weeks ago. Suddenly when firing up 3s OE (PS3) it had long delay when moving the stick up, up back and up left. I thought the stick was broken and replaced it with a new Sanwa JLF and now it only responds to moving it up (only tried this on the PC through FightCade).

Anyone recognize this? Or do I simply have to buy a new PCB?

tool · June 29, 2015, 10:27pm

Where to buy it in europe?

Lemony_Vengeance · June 29, 2015, 11:26pm

I believe it was referring to Wii’s support for games that allow game cube controller support.

Vicko · June 30, 2015, 1:24am

No, it’s referring to alternate controls on the cthulhu for how it handles inputs on gamecube