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Toodles · 2012-01-25T02:39:27.000Z

If the Chimp is entirely out, use a small wire in the Home screw terminal and a GND screw terminal, and plug it in and try to flash the firmware.

lunch_hotdogs · 2012-01-25T16:31:37.000Z

Question:
Can a Tekken 5 HORI PCB be hooked up to the Cthulhu?
I have one to replace the cord that’s currently hooked up. The wires look to be the same colors, but I want to make sure it is the same color, or if it’s a different setup?
Thanks in advance.

gahrling · 2012-01-25T16:54:08.000Z

Can a Tekken 5 HORI PCB be hooked up to the Cthulhu?
I have one to replace the cord that’s currently hooked up. The wires look to be the same colors, but I want to make sure it is the same color, or if it’s a different setup?

Not enough information.

What is it you are trying to do exactly? Both Hori Tekken 5 sticks are PS2, Cthulhu is PS3.

Multi Console Cthulhu can be used on PS2, but your sentence “I have one to replace the cord that’s currently hooked up” currently doesn’t make any sense to me.

lunch_hotdogs · 2012-01-25T18:07:09.000Z

I have the MC, as I currently have the PS2 cord that I bought directly from Toodles connected to it. In a rush, I accidentally got the cord stuck in a cabinet at a local gathering, and it broke the cord. The only PS2 wire I have laying around is one from a Tekken 5 stick. I just wanted to know if the colors match up the same, so I can just replace the broken cord I have with the Tekken 5 cord.

Instructables.com

How to Install a Playstation Cable Onto a Multi-Console Cthulhu

This Instructable will guide you through installing a Playstation or Playstation 2 style controller cable onto a multi-console 'MC' Cthulhu. All of the information...

In these instructions, the cord that I have is the first:
Color Purpose Pin # Cthulhu Column
Brown - DATA - 1 - C
Orange - CMD - 2 - B
Black - GND - 4 - G
Red - VCC - 5 - V
Yellow - ATT - 6 - D
Blue - CLK - 7 - A
Green - ACK - 9 - F

My white, grey, and purple wires aren’t hooked up to the board.

gahrling · 2012-01-25T18:13:45.000Z

^ Ah, ok.

You can definitely use the cord from a T5 stick, but please note that the colours may not be the same. Best way to test it is to do a continuity test with a multimeter.

lunch_hotdogs · 2012-01-25T18:25:20.000Z

^ Ah, ok.

You can definitely use the cord from a T5 stick, but please note that the colours may not be the same. Best way to test it is to do a continuity test with a multimeter.

The question I had was “Are the colors the same?” because I don’t have a multimeter, nor do I fully know what I’m doing if I had one.

I’m sure there’s somebody that’s done this mod with that cable, and I just would like to know what color combination they used.

Vicko · 2012-01-25T20:45:25.000Z

you can’t rely on the colors. you have to use a multimeter or you can break apart the connector to see which colors are connected to which pins, and reconnect from there.

SuperGreekFighter · 2012-01-25T22:32:29.000Z

If the Chimp is entirely out, use a small wire in the Home screw terminal and a GND screw terminal, and plug it in and try to flash the firmware.

The results weren’t any different, red & blue LEDs stayed lit, but the computer saw nothing. No noise, nothing in device manager, and no response allowing me to add the hex file to the bootloader. Just to be sure, I tried wiring Start&Select to GND, and again same results. I can’t get anything from the ChimpSMD.

lunch_hotdogs · 2012-01-25T22:33:26.000Z

you can’t rely on the colors. you have to use a multimeter or you can break apart the connector to see which colors are connected to which pins, and reconnect from there.

Thank you.

Toodles · 2012-01-25T22:35:52.000Z

The results weren’t any different, red & blue LEDs stayed lit, but the computer saw nothing. No noise, nothing in device manager, and no response allowing me to add the hex file to the bootloader. Just to be sure, I tried wiring Start&Select to GND, and again same results. I can’t get anything from the ChimpSMD.

You’ve got to have something shorted dealing with the USB lines (OD+, OD-, VCC, GND). Take some good macro shots of the top and bottom and those four screw terminals and post them up to see if I can eyeball anything odd going on.

SuperGreekFighter · 2012-01-25T23:42:58.000Z

MKKhanzo · 2012-01-26T05:46:02.000Z

Quick (almost random) off topic:

Will the Chtulu sometime support the N64 pad?

khoalala · 2012-01-26T08:10:19.000Z

Hello, I’ve installed the ChimpSMD into a 360 Brawl Stick. The mod was succesful and everything works great. Checked both ps3/360 mode in windows. There is just a minor issue. While playing on my ps3 I noticed the turbo light suddenly turned on for the triangle button (Y button 360) and stayed on for the remaining time. I thought it was strange because I think the ChimpSMD doesn’t support turbo ?? However everything still worked fine even when light was on. I’ve doublechecked all wires again with a multimeter and made sure nothing is exposed or touching metal. Maybe this is a bug or it might be an error on my part. Should I be worried and redo the mod or just let it be? If it works it works some say. Anyway hats off to Toodles for this fine piece of electronics and the support for it.

hikarutilmitt · 2012-01-26T08:16:08.000Z

http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc440/portraitscouture/IMG_0086.jpg

[S]Can you use a knife to very carefully cut the bridged chip traces on the bottom of this pic? Top row, 2nd and 3rd from the left are joined by some solder. Try cutting that (VERY carefully!) and see if it helps.[/S] - BAD ADVICE, I’M AN IDIOT. DON’T READ THAT.

Hello, I’ve installed the ChimpSMD into a 360 Brawl Stick. The mod was succesful and everything works great. Checked both ps3/360 mode in windows. There is just a minor issue. While playing on my ps3 I noticed the turbo light suddenly turned on for the triangle button (Y button 360) and stayed on for the remaining time. I thought it was strange because I think the ChimpSMD doesn’t support turbo ?? However everything still worked fine even when light was on. I’ve doublechecked all wires again with a multimeter and made sure nothing is exposed or touching metal. Maybe this is a bug or it might be an error on my part. Should I be worried and redo the mod or just let it be? If it works it works some say. Anyway hats off to Toodles for this fine piece of electronics and the support for it.

I’ve had this happen once in a blue moon and never figured out what did it. It should go away if you unplug the stick and plug it back in again, if it’s bothering you.

jdm714 · 2012-01-26T11:31:07.000Z

Can you use a knife to very carefully cut the bridged chip traces on the bottom of this pic? Top row, 2nd and 3rd from the left are joined by some solder. Try cutting that (VERY carefully!) and see if it helps.

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Those two pins are supposed to be connected.
If SuperGreekFighter desoldered the bridge, there is Trace underneath that connects those pins.

There are three more sets of two pins also connected to each other on that 4066 chip.
So there are four sets of two pins total.
Pins 2 and 3.
Pins 5 and 6.
Pins 9 and 10.
Pins 12 and 13 (the one you pointed out).

Toodles · 2012-01-26T18:46:56.000Z

Quick (almost random) off topic:

Will the Chtulu sometime support the N64 pad?

FAQs, first post.

Hello, I’ve installed the ChimpSMD into a 360 Brawl Stick. The mod was succesful and everything works great. Checked both ps3/360 mode in windows. There is just a minor issue. While playing on my ps3 I noticed the turbo light suddenly turned on for the triangle button (Y button 360) and stayed on for the remaining time. I thought it was strange because I think the ChimpSMD doesn’t support turbo ?? However everything still worked fine even when light was on. I’ve doublechecked all wires again with a multimeter and made sure nothing is exposed or touching metal. Maybe this is a bug or it might be an error on my part. Should I be worried and redo the mod or just let it be? If it works it works some say. Anyway hats off to Toodles for this fine piece of electronics and the support for it.

The turbo LEDs aren’t connected in any way to the Chimp; I have absolutely no control over them, and they have no control over me. Its random and weird when that happens, but it’s happened ever since the the first time Cthulhu’s were joined with TE/SE sticks; it has no effect on game play, and I have no way to prevent it from happening. I would suggest not worrying about it.

I metered that and it was soldered together for some reason but now I fixed it. They are no longer together. But alas, there is no change to the situation, the bootloader still says no device.

Ack. Those points are supposed to be together as JDM pointed out. Please check with a meter to see if they’re still connected and short them with solder if they aren’t. I haven’t checked if that bridge would affect the Cthulhu USB or Xbox USB, but it will definite bjork one of them if that trace is destroyed.

hikarutilmitt · 2012-01-26T19:14:23.000Z

Those two pins are supposed to be connected.
If SuperGreekFighter desoldered the bridge, there is Trace underneath that connects those pins.

There are three more sets of two pins also connected to each other on that 4066 chip.
So there are four sets of two pins total.
Pins 2 and 3.
Pins 5 and 6.
Pins 9 and 10.
Pins 12 and 13 (the one you pointed out).

Oh shit, my bad. I didn’t think they should be connected like they were because neither of my ChimpSMDs had that there that I can remember. At least if it’s connected by trace underneath it won’t affect it. This is what I get for trying to help.

SuperGreekFighter · 2012-01-26T19:30:28.000Z

Ack. Those points are supposed to be together as JDM pointed out. Please check with a meter to see if they’re still connected and short them with solder if they aren’t. I haven’t checked if that bridge would affect the Cthulhu USB or Xbox USB, but it will definite bjork one of them if that trace is destroyed.

not to worry, i put a touch of solder back on and they are linked again…but…Do I have any other options here Toodles? If not I’m just going to buy an new one anyway, it just sucks that I can’t get the original hori board to respond either. I’ve tried every pinout under the sun for the usb and nothing ever works so I might have to do this the hard way, like the old days. controller hack.

Toodles · 2012-01-26T20:09:43.000Z

not to worry, i put a touch of solder back on and they are linked again…but…Do I have any other options here Toodles? If not I’m just going to buy an new one anyway, it just sucks that I can’t get the original hori board to respond either. I’ve tried every pinout under the sun for the usb and nothing ever works so I might have to do this the hard way, like the old days. controller hack.

The fact that the red one is on and not the green one is a good sign to me; I think something is running on the main chip, but either we’re not testing it properly, or something is holding the USB communication up.
First off, did you have the bootloader program running when checking to see if the bootloader was running? Seeing the message inside the text window of that is the best way to see if the bootloader is running; I just want to be specific that you checked there. Yes, it should be in the device manager, but the message in the bootloader program is the most specific and easiest way to check.
Second, please plug it in (you can keep the bootloader wires in, and Im pretty sure it’s Start+Select for the bootloader, instead of Guide) and use a meter to check the voltages on pins 1, 14, 15, and 16. That’s the left side upper-most (1), left side bottom most (14), and the two bottom most on the right side of the pictures you posted(15, 16). You should also see if you can get a resistance reading (when plugged in) between the 15 and 16 pins and the OD+ and OD- screw terminals; there will be resistance between one pin to one screw terminal, but I dont recall from memory which is which, and there may be some difficulty getting a good reading when its on, but please try.

theBAYsics · 2012-01-29T08:08:01.000Z

i’m having trouble with my ChimpSMD dualmod for my hori vx-sa.

all connections are soldered to bottom of chimp except for usb cable which is attached thru screw terminals. when i plug into pc, pc detects chimp, all buttons/directions work. when i plug into 360, Ring of light flashes once but turns off, blue/green lights on chimp are on but no buttons/directions work. plug into pc and force 360 mode, no controller detected, unknown usb. when i insert oem usb cable into vx-sa board, pcb detected, everything works.

already flashed latest firmware. any other ideas?