The official Cthulhu and ChImp thread - Try our new Dreamcast flavor!

hardcoregaming · 2011-01-22T08:24:36.000Z

Toodles:

Sure, but shipping costs always suck. Send me a PM if you’d like the full spiel on bulk orders.

I just need to get my post count up to two so I can PM Lol, so I guess you can check your PM in two seconds.

LuckyDay · 2011-01-22T09:10:27.000Z

Toodles,

Second FGW project (adding pads to Janna) works perfect.

Tried a new chip in the 360 one still no dice. I’m gonna completely redo my wiring later but probably my fault.

You are a god btw, ST is running at our tourney in CBus on supergun tomorrow morning because of these. We could have gone with laugh converters but didn’t have enough time and these are gonna work perfect.

Toodles · 2011-01-22T09:27:30.000Z

LuckyDay:

ST is running at our tourney in CBus on supergun tomorrow morning because of these. We could have gone with laugh converters but didn’t have enough time and these are gonna work perfect.

Cabinet ST is teh sex, but I can accept Supergun play. Luckily, I got ST in the candy cab right behind my desk.
I think someone was talking about making a guide for using those with CPS-2 A boards pretty much specifically for ST. I’d love to finally get around to consolizing an A board like I’ve been wanting to do forever.

Missing_Person · 2011-01-22T12:46:46.000Z

So I have a dual modded SE stick that worked previously with a MC Cthulhu, DPDT Switch, Neutrik RJ-45. Suddenly stopped working.

Steps taken to fix this:

Switched out DPDT with brand new one.
Switched out ethernet cable with new one.
Recrimped USB cable.

Nothing has helped. If I plug a USB cable directly into the Cthulhu, it is recognized by my computer. But if I try to run it through the Neutrik, neither the 360 or the Cthulhu board recognizes.

Currently the 360 board is removed as it is DOA. So not even the lack of ground between the boards should be an issue.

I have verified my soldering multiple times. D+/D- on the DPDT is running to where D+/D- would be on the RJ-45.

What is going on with my stick???

EDIT: May be the neutrik. Tried swapping it out on my other Dual Modded SE, with no luck on that stick.

Looks to be the problem.

EDIT REDUX: Nope. I tried swapping out the known working Neutrik to the broken stick, and it still isn’t being picked up by my computer. So yes, the Neutrik isn’t working in the broken stick, but there is something else. I’m so confused by this.

EMERGENCY EDIT: Ok, i’m not touching this anymore: MC Cthulhu got REEEEEEAAAAAALLLLLLLYYYYYY HOT! HELP!

EDIT THE FINAL: Nevermind, I used the USB cable from my other stick (crimped different). Glad the MC is well built! Got it to register using the known working Neutrik. HAS to be the Neutrik then. Also found a short in the underside of the MC Cthulhu, which I’m assuming was causing it not to register through the Neutrik before. Fixed that, still not registering on the other Neutrik, so that HAS to be it. Guess I better put in an order to LL.com.

It always seems as though I post this stuff in here, then it seems to work itself out where I don’t need help after all. Like writing this stuff in this thread is me troubleshooting myself.

I just hope this scattered mess helps someone else.

bgmk100 · 2011-01-22T17:57:19.000Z

thanks toodles

First off thanks I understand how to do the ribbon connection. For the buttons the signal and ground cables use QD’S. I know that the end to the button can keep the QD’S but does the side that goes into chimp need the qd stripped off and use exposed (inuslation) portion of wire, or can QD go straight into the port?

Secondly regarding the usb cable do I have to use the original usb cable and cut from the ps3 pcb strip some insulation from the four wires and place in chimp. Alternatively could I just buy a usb B --> usb A plug B end into smd and A end into console, would it still work the same way from using existing cable?

Before bothering you with another question thanks for saving me 150 for another stick. I have a madcatz 360 fightpad that I used to use when I had a 360 and was a pad player. I digress I was wondering not how to pad hack but what happens in regard to the usb. I know that the pad needs power. I also know that the wires from the pad need to be connected to the chimp in allocated slots.
Can I strip the end of the usb where it would go into a port place 4 wires and screw them down and thats it? I mean I know there is soldering required for connecting wires to pad to respective slot in the chimp. Thanks again because of madcatz crappy quality I may now have a dual modded stick a blessing in disguise thanks again.

I tried the led mod and your board was awesome I’m just no pro at soldering and must’ve messed up the kick side I got the punches to work just fine with knserts and signal wise but figured I would just buy a new one one day and have one of my electrician friends put it together. but I will show you the art I got and if you want the template to send to arthobbies ill send it to you.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs059.snc6/168952_1395890499314_1293751804_31818087_1696300_n.jpg

LuckyDay · 2011-01-22T20:36:58.000Z

Toodles,

Is there any reason you can think of that PS2 pads would work when connected to jamma through FGW but no ps2 modded sticks (with dual shock or ps1 digital pads) would work?

When we plug sticks in they don’t respond at all, plug a pad back in and it’s fine.

Toodles · 2011-01-22T21:58:31.000Z

LuckyDay:

Toodles,

Is there any reason you can think of that PS2 pads would work when connected to jamma through FGW but no ps2 modded sticks (with dual shock or ps1 digital pads) would work?

When we plug sticks in they don’t respond at all, plug a pad back in and it’s fine.

Nope, there is absolutely no reason or possible cause for that behavior I can think of. If it works with one pad or stick, it should work for everything.

Toodles · 2011-01-22T22:04:55.000Z

bgmk100:

I know that the end to the button can keep the QD’S but does the side that goes into chimp need the qd stripped off and use exposed (inuslation) portion of wire, or can QD go straight into the port?

Secondly regarding the usb cable do I have to use the original usb cable and cut from the ps3 pcb strip some insulation from the four wires and place in chimp. Alternatively could I just buy a usb B --> usb A plug B end into smd and A end into console, would it still work the same way from using existing cable?

Can I strip the end of the usb where it would go into a port place 4 wires and screw them down and thats it? I mean I know there is soldering required for connecting wires to pad to respective slot in the chimp. Thanks again because of madcatz crappy quality I may now have a dual modded stick a blessing in disguise thanks again.

The wires with the QDs on either end you should leave alone. Those wires plug into a small distribution block inside the case, and there are two ribbon cables going from the distribution block to the main TE pcb. Use those ribbons to connect the buttons to the Chimp/Cthulhu
Sure, you can use a new A-to-B cable, but you’ll have to figure how to get the one end on the inside of the case and the other end on the outside of the case. You’d probably have to use a drill to widen the hole the existing cable exits through the TE cord compartment.
If a dual mod stick is something you’d want, now would be the proper time to stop, and shop around for a tech to do the work for for you.

LuckyDay · 2011-01-22T22:21:55.000Z

Toodles:

Nope, there is absolutely no reason or possible cause for that behavior I can think of. If it works with one pad or stick, it should work for everything.

That’s what I’m thinking and it’s baffling me. I have at least 8 pads
all work. Unplug it from the port and plug any stick in, nothing. Tried starting the jamma rig up with and without them plugged in, swapping, etc. No luck.

Some of the sticks are dual modded but a handful aren’t, most have different pcbs.

Should be some ps2 hori sticks arriving later we can try at least.

LuckyDay · 2011-01-22T22:24:32.000Z

…even just tried a Saturn pad modded with ps2 and it works great.

So far pads = all working. Sticks = all not working.

This is really strange.

hardcoregaming · 2011-01-23T10:10:00.000Z

Toodles,

You got PM.

bgmk100 · 2011-01-23T17:50:08.000Z

Thanks toodles

I will be definitely getting the board once I get the money. Thank you very much and I actually went to a tournament yesterday and met a tech from SRK who would be able to padhack so thanks to you I’ll have a dual modded stick next month. I really appreciate everything and keep making great products.

LuckyDay · 2011-01-24T08:06:38.000Z

LuckyDay:

…even just tried a Saturn pad modded with ps2 and it works great.

So far pads = all working. Sticks = all not working.

This is really strange.

Follow up…

HRAP2s worked fine (and tourney went off no prob). Any idea what might be different on those? I’m lost on what to do to test this (or remedy it).

LuckyDay · 2011-01-24T08:06:54.000Z

LuckyDay:

…even just tried a Saturn pad modded with ps2 and it works great.

So far pads = all working. Sticks = all not working.

This is really strange.

Follow up…

HRAP2s worked fine (and tourney went off no prob). Any idea what might be different on those? I’m lost on what to do to test this (or remedy it).

motoh · 2011-01-24T09:21:47.000Z

Time to be weird again. I have a chimp and 4716 that, when I hit start/select on 360 side, presses right. If I hit home, it doesn’t do this.

Toodles · 2011-01-24T09:31:39.000Z

LuckyDay:

Follow up…

HRAP2s worked fine (and tourney went off no prob). Any idea what might be different on those? I’m lost on what to do to test this (or remedy it).

Um, no, still absolutely no idea. The HRAP2’s use the same core as the T5 stick, Namco’s, other HRAPs, and pretty much everything. What sticks were these exactly?

motoh:

Time to be weird again. I have a chimp and 4716 that, when I hit start/select on 360 side, presses right. If I hit home, it doesn’t do this.

Need more information; test on a PC, not a console, check the resistor arrays, and lots of info about exactly what it does and when.

Toodles · 2011-01-24T09:31:54.000Z

LuckyDay:

Follow up…

HRAP2s worked fine (and tourney went off no prob). Any idea what might be different on those? I’m lost on what to do to test this (or remedy it).

Um, no, still absolutely no idea. The HRAP2’s use the same core as the T5 stick, Namco’s, other HRAPs, and pretty much everything. What sticks were these exactly?

motoh:

Time to be weird again. I have a chimp and 4716 that, when I hit start/select on 360 side, presses right. If I hit home, it doesn’t do this.

Need more information; test on a PC, not a console, check the resistor arrays, and lots of info about exactly what it does and when.

motoh · 2011-01-25T00:04:59.000Z

Tested on PC, PS3 side works fine, on 360 side, only when the Start/Select macro is active (haven’t pressed a home button yet), does pressing the combination activate right direction. All buttons function normally otherwise, and when the macro is disabled, the buttons operate normally.

PS3 Board used is ChimpSMD. 360 board is 4716.

Toodles · 2011-01-25T00:09:21.000Z

Which ‘right’? X/Y? POV hat? The Z axis?

LuckyDay · 2011-01-25T01:25:46.000Z

Toodles:

Um, no, still absolutely no idea. The HRAP2’s use the same core as the T5 stick, Namco’s, other HRAPs, and pretty much everything. What sticks were these exactly?

The ones that didn’t work at all:

TE stick modded with a DS2 pad, Mas stick (probably PS1 digital), hori VLX dual modded with PS1 digital.

The two HRAP2 worked fine. I’m going to look around for other pcbs to test with to see if there’s a link between one or the other.