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I already tested the continuity in the last post, via the multimeter. Are you treating me like an idiot? That’s okay, I’m an idiot anyway, but would it hurt if you can at least read my post and understand that I’ve already thoroughly checked it. I know you don’t like me and think that I’m a retarded little shit, but can you at least give me a better answer? I may be terrible but would it really hurt if you can be more understanding? I’m a horrible person, I should die, I’m terrible, I’m a piece of shit, I should be trashed, I should be killed. There, you happy now? I’ve just said all the insult to myself that you want to say, so can you please answer my question?

I have no idea how you can fix your problem, but if you do the following and post a reply it’ll probably help someone more experienced diagnose it.

Try it out in your computer, (for a windows box go to control panel: game controllers: properties [of the cthulhu]) Try rotating the stick quickly to see if it hangs somewhere, I’ve had a converter exhibit this behavior in the past (it screwed up at down left) Next try your Start+Select, I suspect it will say that your device was disconnected or malfunctioned when you do this, indicating that your start+select = guide soldering may have shorted something else.

Dude, chill.
You tested the continuity of the PSX cord. The troubleshooting guide will help you figure out what is happening with the Cthulhu when connected to the PC, by going step by step to verify that it’s getting power, that the chip is powered, the chip is active, the USB module is functioning, the USB power supply is working, the voltages on the D+ and D- lines are correct, etc, etc.

I’m happy to help when I can, but admittedly my time is quite short. Considering the information that’s been given so far is:

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There’s not much that can be gleamed from that. There’s a crap ton of information that could easily affect things that you havent mentioned. Short list? Custom case or modded existing case? Dual’ed with other board or by itself? Imp or DPDT? Soldered on USB cable or plugged into the jack? Tried another USB cable if jack? RJ-45 mod? Multiple cords hanging out the box or multiple system cords? Kit or assembled? Have you updated the firmware to the most recent? oh, and let’s not forget PICTURES. If you need a direct, specific hand holding Chilton’s manual for troubleshooting the Cthulhu, that’s exactly what I told you to go check. I don’t dislike you; I don’t know you. But I have still been answering your questions with as helpful information as I can get from your very thin posts. I’m not psychic, and my lack of psychic abilities isn’t a reflection on how I view you as a person. Questions like “It don’t work.” will always be answered with “You’re doing it wrong.” because that’s all I have to go on. You want better answers, ask better questions and provide more information. Like this:

Nail’s right. Testing on a PC via the control panel applet is the safest way to get a solid idea of how its behaving. Take a peek at the resistor packs on each side of the main chip; there’s writing on one side on one end, that should always be on the end closest to the USB jack. If the pack on the side of the chip with the directions is on backwards, it could match what you’re describing.

Tomorrow I’ll post a pic of it and results of the PC testing. Until then, I’d like to add that it was a pre-assembled board and that I used no solder. I’ve never wired a common ground stick before this, but I feel like I understand how they work as I have a good understanding of very basic wiring concepts. Just in case I did it wrong though, I tried different ground wiring setups and they all worked the same.

Is it one of the 1.4’s? The version number is on the bottom, but they all have four black diodes on them next to the USB jack. If there are two glass diodes and two black diodes, then it was assembled by hand. If its one of the 1.4’s, then it definitely isn’t the resistor packs. Those guys do NOT make make mistakes. If its an earlier version, then was put together by a human hand and subject to error.

If its the resistor packs, it’s easy to identify, even if resolving the problem is a bitch. If the problem persists on the PC, then it is most likely a wiring problem, and it’d have to be troubleshot similar to what I described with 10 stars.

Hey Toodles, I’m looking to buy the MC version for a stick I’m building. I checked the vendors and it looks as though they are out of stock or not carrying it. Any chance I can buy it direct from you?

First post, URL in sig. Has everything you need to know for ordering.

Including a link to GamingNow.Net, they have plenty of MC’s in stock.

This board is amazing.

The pc test came out good except the bottom left diagonal doesn’t register. Start + select = home and the buttons work just fine after I do that. Still messes up the PS3 when I do that though. I’m working with a 1.4.

Doublecheck that nothing is going to the VCC screw terminal on the board. After that, you’ll need to remove all of the wires going to the screw terminals. Start by connecting just the stick with no buttons, and seeing if the down/left still won’t work but the individual down and left work by themselves. If down/left still won’t work, remove the stick wires and connect four buttons to the directions. If you can get down/left to work with the buttons but not the stick, then you know its something with the stick; if you can’t then it may be something with the board, but I really can’t see how that could happen.

For serious.

Hey Toodles, any progress on the ChImp?

Sadly, nothing to report yet. I have the boards, but need a spare moment to write the code for it. I’ve been busting ass on homework all week to try and make time. My plan is to hopefully get the code done this weekend, and send a few out to some beta testers. If I get thumbs up from them, then I’ll package them up and get them out.

Dont worry, I too want to get them finished and available. Its just a time constraint problem. Fucking school. :frowning:

The diagonal thing was the stick. I still have the Home function problem. I tried using a dedicated home button and the same problem comes up. The controller becomes unresponsive except for the home button after that.

I’ll beta test.

Likewise, I’d like to be a beta tester too. Who are the lucky fellows you’ll be choosing?

Hmm, if possible maybe I could beta test as well. I’m sure I could locate a stick to put it in without a problem (read: free dual mod for a local :rofl:)

hey toodles does the mc board work with a inpin with a ps2 cord?

I had the board for a looong time but I never got around to putting it inside my TE stick. I had it in a shoebox originally when I first got it earlier this year and then i upgraded to a tupperware container but I finally got up around to soldering the wires from my TE board.

It’s not pretty on the inside but it works.

http://img230.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=dscf3030v.jpg

? So with a dedicated home button, every thing works on the ps3, then you press home, the in game menu comes up fine, and pressing home again gets you out of the menu, and nothing else on the stick works after that? Can you confirm that for me please, because Im trying to figure out any way that could happen, and Im not seeing one, especially if it all works peachy on the PC.

I don’t know, but why would you possibly want to? The MC will work better on the PS3 than the inpin would.

I appreciate the offers. Lemme focus on getting them testable first :slight_smile:

Please note that I’ve changed the expected shipping times in the first post. I have plenty of stock of everything, but because of school work, my recent orders have been delayed far longer than my expected ‘1 business day’ policy for shipping. I’ve changed that to ‘3 business days’ so there are no surprises while school continues.

I’m also doing my best to keep the trade list updated with random stuff I’d like, so take a peek because I give better than the game stores do.

Is there a way to tell a MC from a PS3/PC version?

I ordered a MC, and it arrived today except it doesn’t say MC on the bag like the last one I got, nor does the instructions inside say MC, they just say PS3/PC.

I plugged it into a computer here at work and it says "undefinable’ where as my first MC board says MC Cthulhu.

Is there something on the chip or board that will let me know if I got shipped the wrong one?