The Official Battlefield 3 Thread

Amazing_Funbags · June 9, 2012, 10:22pm

Despite the new buffs to the grip for the CQC rifles I don’t like using them as much as I did on launch. I think I’ll just use the M16A3 for CQC. Now I need another weapon for mid-range…I’m thinking the L85A2 or maybe I should just use the AUG A3 when I go premium and CQ gets released.

Goatbot · June 10, 2012, 5:40am

G3 tap fire single shot can fire insanely quick with little recoil and high damage over distance so I use that for mid-long range. M16 or AEK for mid-close. People say the F2000 is OP now but it seems pretty weak once it hits mid range or further and it flings out ammo way too fast to really take out more than 1 or 2 people. Most ARs I can usually kill a squad in 1 clip but F2K I get to the 3rd person and I often run out on the 3rd guy with him around 5% health left.

Amazing_Funbags · June 10, 2012, 5:49am

I currently use:

Close Range: AEK-971
Mid-Range: L85A2
Long Range: AN-94

Yeah I’ve been hearing food things about the F2000 now too. I may swap out the L85A2 in favor of the AUG.

Goatbot · June 10, 2012, 6:27am

Ah yeh! I forgot about the AN-94. On Assault I use

Close: Basically any gun that has a fast RoF.
Mid:AK-74M
Mid and Long:L85A2/G3/AN-94

Engy

Mid/Close: G36C or M4A1
Mid/Long: SCARH (I say mid long because the SCAR isn’t that much further than the others but it does just take the edge against the others.)

Support: This kit sucks! EXT MAG on all clip based LMGs? Lie, another DICE patch screw up. They took them off all the LMGs so now they’re significantly less damage and only 10 or so more bullets than ARs with horrible recoil and long reloads. Pointless class, just use P90 or Shotguns because they super screwed this class hard. M27 IAR is the only one they put the Ext mag on and it sucks.

Recon:

Mid: SKS or M417 looks like it may be even better.

Long: M98B

Amazing_Funbags · June 10, 2012, 6:46am

I could never find a decent long-range Carbine. The AKS-74U and QBZ-95 seem so “meh” and I could never find a good set-up for the SCAR.

Goatbot · June 10, 2012, 1:56pm

I just use Kobra sight HB Bipod (Not much point in anything underneath but I slap bipod on just in case it ever deploys and gives me a moment to fire with easy control long distance kills. Got me a triple kill over distance the otherday)

Amazing_Funbags · June 11, 2012, 2:27am

I think I’d have more success with slapping a FG+HB on the SG553 or G36C and tap firing people. The upwards recoil on the SCAR-H is what turns me off. Same with the G3A3.

Bubonic_Craig · June 11, 2012, 4:04am

Which is better for the L85A2?

Heavy Barrel or Flash Suppressor?

Also, any tips for getting my recon class up some experience, I tried the M39 with Iron Sights, but it only get’s me so far…

Goatbot · June 11, 2012, 4:47am

Single shot both. The recoil is great on the g3 especially as you can aim at the body and it rides up to the head for a headshot as there is little side to side movement when firing. You can kill in 3 bullets with the G3 once you are used to it.

The flash suppressor has the added bonus of reducing muzzle climb but the L85 is so easy to control that it doesn’t really need it. I would use the HB.

As Recon use the SKS for any mid range encounters because its amazing and can fire off quicker and more accurately than the M39. SKS just got nerfed but at mid range can still be really deadly. P90 in close quarters is also really good and a good option for the aggro recon. M98B is ok for big maps but it really does kill your SPM and the L96 takes a really long time to chamber each shot so try to steer clear of the bolt actions unless you are really confident.

Amazing_Funbags · June 11, 2012, 4:50am

Heavy Barrel+Fore Grip. Add sight of choice.

I’m using the SG553 with FG+HB for “big” maps but I may give the SCAR-H a shot again.

Bubonic_Craig · June 11, 2012, 5:12am

Sweet, my mates said it’s personal preference but thought I’d come and see other opinions.

I have good matches with the Scar-H on smaller maps, like Seine Crossing on Conquest for example, I think that gun really shines on that map and mode

Amazing_Funbags · June 11, 2012, 5:18am

I had the most success with a Flash Suppressor on the SCAR-H

Goatbot · June 12, 2012, 5:18am

I don’t even bother with the grip for the L85. Its very easy to control the recoil anyway and the side to side penalty of the grip seems to add more to the recoil than if it just has the HB on its own so it doesn’t have the range that you would really want. I only bother using a grip on the higher RoF guns such as the M16, M416, F2000, AEK

Yeh Flash Suppressor seemed useful if you want to dump the mag on smaller maps but generally I go with the HB because it can be very accurate as it tightens the recoil in from the sides a little and you can counter the recoil is easy to counter as it moves almost directly upwards.

Amazing_Funbags · June 12, 2012, 5:20am

Well after I get Premium or CQ the SCAR-L may be replacing it as my Mid-range Assault Rifle of choice maybe even long-range but I doubt anything can compare to the AN-94.

Goatbot · June 12, 2012, 5:29am

AN -94 in CQ is going to be tough work against the spray of the F2K. In the CQ maps I may have to drop the G3 and L85 in favour of the AEK or the SCAR-L though the movement and the awesome accuracy with very manageable recoil of the AUG could be pretty good.

I hope the new Support weapons are good because that class is terrible now with high recoils, low damage and a lack of ext mag on any gun actually worth considering.

Amazing_Funbags · June 12, 2012, 5:37am

I only use the AN-94 on big maps with a 3X4 scope with a heavy barrel. I use the Underslung rail to slap on the M320 Buck with the Frag perk that let’s me get like 8 shots with it to help in CQC.

Never used a Magazine-fed LMG before bro?

Goatbot · June 12, 2012, 8:05pm

I used to use the MG36 as my main weapon but it sucks without the ext mag because its pretty weak and horrific recoil for 50 bullets. So I started back on the traditional Rambo M60. I just unlocked the L86 and I think its actually really nice so I may make it my support weapon of choice.

CStatic · June 12, 2012, 8:28pm

The L86 LSW is a fantastic support weapon.

Amazing_Funbags · June 12, 2012, 9:25pm

Possible tweaks on the board:

Here is a list of potential fixes for a future update. I’ve been scouring the feedback from Battlelog, Symthic, Reddit, Twitter and other places. As usual, this is not exhaustive, nor is this a guarantee we will perform these changes. Instead this is a request for feedback from our community. Currently I cannot see any substantial reason to make balance changes the weapons added in Close Quarters. The only weapon that has received substantial OP/UP feedback is the M417, which I feel is working exactly as it is intended: a good mid range run and gun weapon which lacks the long range accuracy of the MK11/SVD and has worse mobility than the SKS.
Additionally, the discussion about aim assist changes has been interesting, though I find that players are mostly commenting on should aim assist be allowed or not. Players have suggested zoom spamming over powers aim assist after the update, however the update only changed how a the assist helps a player stay on a moving target not how aim assist works when zooming. Further more the videos players have shown attempting to show zoom spamming as a valid tactic fail to actually get the crosshairs on target, as the system is designed to only assist the player and the player will need to do the rest. In fact the videos demonstrate a system which accomplishes exactly what it is designed to do. Finally, some players have worried about quick scope snipers using zoom spamming, however high zoom scopes on all weapons prevent this tactic by not including any zoom assist, the player has to do this skill shot on all his own. I recognize this is a hot topic for highly skilled players, and I feel currently the new aim assist settings provide enough assistance to players without eliminating the skill element.
Change list:
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[]A number of weapons have had their reload timers adjusted to better fit their animations and gameplay balance. For most of these weapons the gameplay timers were slightly out of sync with the actual reload animation, meaning the player could either fire before the animation was done, or had to wait longer than the animation played. Primarily this is a cosmetic change (around 0.1sec); however for a few weapons (M416, F2000, FAMAS, KH2002, MK3A1, JNG90, MG36 QBU-88, SVD, Pecheneg, SCAR-H, AN-94) this should also improve the performance of the weapon.
[]Short and Long reload reduced: SCAR-L, AEK-971, F2000, AN-94, AK-74, PP2000, G3A3, SKS, MG36, JNG-90, MK3A1, SCAR-H, SVD, QBZ-95B
[]Long reload reduced: AUG A3, 44 Magnum, KH2002, Pecheneg, L85A2, QBB-95, M1911, MP7, M4A1
[]Short reload reduced: FAMAS, M39 EBR, M416, PP-19, QBU-88;
[]Short and long reload increased: ASVal
[]Long reload increased: P90
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[]Belt Fed Machine guns are now more accurate when standing and firing while aiming: M240, M249, Type88, and Pecheneg
[]Increased the close range damage of the UMP but reduced its damage over range. The UMP now has a sweet spot in CQB but suffers compared to the PP2000 at longer ranges.
[]Increased the long range damage of the PP2000 to highlight its role as a mid-range, low recoil PDW.
[]Increased the min damage of the M1911 to make it fit better between the Magnums and the M9/MP443
[]Reduced the M93R’s damage and range, as it was an obvious goto pistol compared to the M9/MP443. Its recoil has been reduced for a smoother burst action to counter the reduced damage.
[]Increased the fire rate and reload time of the MP412 REX to better highlight the improved CQB performance over the 44 Magnum.
[]SG553: Horizontal recoil reduced to help make this weapon more controllable.
[]MG36: Vertical recoil reduced to make this weapon more controllable.
[]M416: Vertical, Horizontal, and First Shot recoil have all be reduced to make this weapon clearly different from the M16A3.
[]44 Magnum: Rate of fire reduced slightly to highlight this sidearm’s role as a slow firing heavy hitter and differentiate it from the MP412 REX.
[]M16A3: Recoil amounts slightly increased.
[]M4A1: Recoil amounts slightly increased.
[]G36: Vertical and First Shot recoil amounts reduced.
[]The bonuses provided by a number of bipods have been increased: F2000, G3A3, M27, M416, Pecheneg, Type88, FAMAS, MG36
[]Added Burst Fire to the M5K as an available option.
[]Slightly reduced the range bonus added by the heavy barrel on the 5.56mm, 5.45mm, 6.5mm Assault Rifles.
[]Slightly reduced the range penalty for the suppressor on 5.56mm, 5.45mm, and 6.5mm weapons: AR, Carbine, and LMG.
[]Slightly reduced the range penalty for the suppressor on the SCAR-H.
[]The radius for maximum damage of the 40mm LVG has been slightly increased. The overall damage level and range remain the same.
[]Fixed the SCAR-L heavy barrel not increasing recoil when zoomed and standing.
[]Fixed Jets not getting bonuses on Laser Designated targets.
[]Fixed the AUG’s M320 smoke having an incorrectly high projectile velocity.
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[]Fixed helicopter weapons being unable to destroy equipment with splash damage.
[]Increased the damage helicopter and jet rockets do to helicopters and jets and infantry.
[]Increased the damage helicopter gunners and IFVs do to helicopters and jets.
[]Slightly increased the damage of the AA vs infantry, AA is significantly less effective than even the coaxial LMG on tanks, making it extremely vulnerable. AA should be effective against a single infantryman but not over powering.[/LIST]

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Looks like all those people whining about the M16A3/M4A1 got their wish.

KORYNTHYAN · June 13, 2012, 12:16am

Thank goodness for one particular fix. It was driving me fucking mad. The one where you’re in a helo, and no
matter what you do, SOFLAMS, Spawn Beacons, ect—were seemingly invincible. Unless you fucking physically landed
your shit, got out and put bullets into it.

Shit drives me nutz especially on maps like Oman where that shit is usually on crane towers or the tops of buildings.

However, YET AGAIN, there’s no mention of any incoming fixes for sound cutting out. That shit annoys me almost as
much. I do not like having to exit the game, taking a loss at the same time, because of that crap! >_<

~K.