QFT:sad::sad::sad::sad:
Moriya is still gdlk though:lovin::lovin:
Big is boring as hell but hes not in as many games as Kim…Kim is the same ass shit in every game hes in…
I wouldnt say nothing…just smart play…look how I handled Magos team of Big-Kim with Tung-Athena…smart play…
Take Marco for instance. I have a hard time with Kyo aganst him so Kaede functions as a better option than Kyo in that fight. But what about Big? Where’s his weaknesses? Kyo’s Aragami has autoguard and can negate projectiles. His torment triggers: B has lower body invul and D has upper body invul. Against Big what good is that? How many players can on reaction stuff a move with Kyo’s aragami? Hell that’s not even a recommendation with anyone who plays Kyo.
Here’s my gameplan against Big:
-vs Standing moves:Aragami chains. Beats strikes.
-vs Crouching:???/with meter Mu shiki. Mu shiki beats a lot of moves.
-AA: cr.C>dpA juggle.
Jumpins?:No
rushdown?:NO
Pokes: I use cr.B/6B/st.B
Hell if I know want to do with Kaede or Kim/Iori… I can’t even bet on picking Kim as back up for Kyo cuz what if they pick Marco?
What I fear is that in a game I enjoy…for it to come down to who has the the stronger character. I hate it when I drop a game I like because top tiers just flat out dominate the game.
Didn’t the Triad and DG put up anit-Big and Kim strats one time? Or was I just hallucinating?
sigh I hate to see a game I love so much be proven so very, very broken.
It’s like 3S all over again.
What? What’s wrong with you guys. Big/Kim isn’t news. Shit’s the same as it’s always been, deal with it and outplay them.
Hatred: Shotos aren’t going to win a fight against Big. None of them. You can’t hurt what you can’t approach and what doesn’t need to approach you.
What I’m saying here sounds contradictory, but like any fighting game, we have matchups here and plenty of characters, none of which are too terribly hard to play. Make a good team where one character’s weaknesses are covered by another and that they have decent tools to win. And it’s not that Yuki/Nak can’t beat Big/Kim, it’s just pretty freaking hard.
And hey, a team of character your best with/Big isn’t a bad idea either. You do have two characters.
Awesome… I’m screwed.
Keep in mind I mean fighting a competent top level Big, man. And even then, Iori has awesome stuff like 6A and far C, sweep, solid damage B&B, he’s a good character. But bad matchups happen.
Lucky for us a good number of those that flock to top tier from the start don’t know so much about playing the game.
What makes Iori’s 6A so good?
You can get DA off of that from like half screen and it beats stuff
I still love this game. I don’t typically have issues with unbalanced gameplay. I mean, I played the shit out of 3S,c CvS2, and Super Smash Bros. Melee. I don’t have a problem with this game being WEEEEEEEEEUUULLLL…WELL ITS THE BIG SHOW!!!
If you guys think 3S is unbalanced/bad, then uhhh what’s “balanced”
I’d play this for fun but not take it too seriously. I mean it’s easy as hell so it doesn’t really need a lot of your attention to play. I just wish people would like…soft ban kim big. it’d make the game a lot better. I don’t see anyone else dominating that hard, but I guess hotaru / marco would take over at the top. But you can deal with those two.
GG? minus eddie of course.
Guilty Gear, Super Turbo, Virtua Fighter, Tekken DR, most KOF games…
My personal definition of balance is simple.
If the lower half of the roster has a legitmate shot at beating the upper half of the roster at the highest level of play, then the game is at least somewhat balanced.
If the game at the highest level ends up being more dependent on the player’s skills, mindgames, adaptibility, and intelligent use of game subsystems than by placing your cursor on top-tier characters at the select screen, then the game is very well balanced.
So really, who in the game can stop Kim/Big?
Hotaru? Yeah, she’s really good but why bother to use her when Big and Kim are so much more brain-dead and yet still stronger?
Marco? Yeah, he’s also really good and really fun to watch but he has glaring weaknesses.
Tung? A dumb, glitchy one-trick pony which can only get so far against a patient Big. In some ways, he makes the game look even worse than Kim/Big
Softbanning Big/Kim isn’t the answer. Never mind that softbans don’t really DO anything in the first place.
However stupid the characters are, there’s nothing that makes them worthy of a ban. Banning a character simply for being better than everyone else is just unreasonable.
The only way for high-level NGBC to grow is for people to adapt to Kim/Big and to create some anti-God Tier strategies.
Maybe it’s possible, or maybe it’s not and we’re all wasting our time.
The truth is, there needs to be more exploration and comprehension about the game before bans are doled out or before the game is pronounced dead.
One thing’s for certain…the game is NOT balanced.
Yes we did…
I’ll make a CMV with Athena/Kisarah/Asura and other characters today showing some of the juggle things you can do…and link it here from my Storm thread so stay tuned.
Shiki is right on…
Heres hoping NGBC2 addresses these issues…hell even take Kim-Big from KOFXI and things are fine.
-Dark Geese
I think even though it has been stated that this game is not balanced (true to a point). I think a skilled player (like many people here) can defeat those guys…i mean, there are a lot of good characters. Obviously kim/big team is retarded to the max and is hard as hell to beat them, not imposible but hard.
I hope a non kim/big player kick the asses of those 2 guys some day
I have done it vs. Mago so I dont see whats the deal… Winners dont make excuses they find solutions…
Like Shiki says deal with it…find ways around it…