numpad is a bit easier to type and easier to look at for reference, because it’s universal
dan come over sometime and beat the shit out of my rei + souther
=O
Do you have the game already? I’ll make a trip up there this weekend if you want. Cat is gonna be gone all Sunday and so I can probably come up then if that’s good.
They’re listed in the actual game that way? Like in the training mode and stuff? If so I’m guessing it’s because that’s the way Guilty Gear players have been doing connotations for a long time and they’re finally following suit.
Yeah, that’s the one. lol 
Thank’s. I have it. But my game won’t be in for another day…I hope:wonder: Shin is good to start out with? I want to end up playing with Rei/Toki, but for now, I think I’ll just get use to the system.
Hmm, I figured the joystick was pretty universal. I never kept up with the GG scene, so this is all new to me.
Ohh okay. Cool thanks for the info!
fuck tha bullshit I wanna battle all ya’ll niggas for real, for real… HYDRA CALLIN SUNDAY
DIPSET!! DIPSET!!
im with you on that its confusing as hell to me are they really listed as keypad notations in the game if so that is the gayest shit ive ever heard of considering all the guilty gear games command lists ingame used the arrow system
Good call Gwyrgyn, that worked perfectly. Guess I just wasn’t timing it properly.
Yeah I agree with you. GG listed the moves in the format that we are all used to, so I see no real reason why it has to change.
Hell yeah just got this game. I love Mamiya! She rocks. Her Motorbike super is hilarious and cool.
Gotta wait for the swap magic. 
damn, boost is useless for toki…
Dumb information that probably everyone knows but I didn’t see it posted…
Health Total:
Everyone in the game has 192 health.
Defense ratings(might be off by a point or two? Hard to test):
Raoh: .85
Everyone else: 1.00
Mamiya, Thouther: 1.20
Stun ratings(gotten via Shin’s 236A projectile, # is the amount of projectiles taken to cause dizzy so bigger numbers are better):
28: Mamiya
25: Kenshiro
24: Jagi, Mr. Heart, Rei, Shin
23: Juda, Thouther, Toki, Raoh
Note: This could just be that some people are more prone to Shin’s projectile but I doubt it.
Weight types:
Heavy: Shin, Mr. Heart
Medium: Everyone else
Light: Thouther, Mamiya
Guts ratings:
???
WyX posted a lot of good Souther info in this thread on the guardcrush boards.
How is Shin on the same level of weight as Heart. <_<
It couldn’t be to balance him out because relative to some of the other characters,he is pretty easy to use.On the flip side it definetly gives him an advantage over pretty much all of the other characters.
Shoulder Guards :looney:
Useful Heart-sama stuff:
His BD grab has some kinda super armor to it. I think it’s good for 1-2 hits.
His corner BS loop is: CD, boost, (B), D, IAD j.D, D, IAD j.D… then you could do 236236A super or into his air throw 623A or something else.
236236B throw craziness: works very well against Raoh, not sure about anyone else -yet-
Get that Raoh into the corner and mash BD. You’ll see Raoh just about to hit the ground and that’s when you want to mash BD again… and again… and again.
Staples: His j.C hit confirm used like this.
214B, j.C (before they tech and right as you jump), land and immediately do grab super 236236A
Tier list IMHO:
Toki, Shin
Raoh, Ken, Shin
Heart, Mamiya
Souther, Jagi
Also ,question…
On the Wiki it says Jagi is mid tier…tied with Rei, and Juda…which confuses me. He doesn’t exactly strike me as powerful as the other mentioned chars…
Also, why is Raoh dead last? I’m not exactly knowledgeable in HnK, but from the matches I’ve seen, it would seem Jagi and Raoh should be switched?