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correction
Gwyrgyn Blood
seeing that you blieve that Ken is not so powerful ,but he is Ken is very powerful especially if he lied on you his combo that bashes you to the wall and does moves easily that can break more than 3 to 4 stars.
and also by the command grab that doesn’t have absolutely nothing to do with who is what 'weight. It does matter because it depends on the amount of damage they take, thats why there are diffrent class Heavy, Medium and light.
The developers made a big mistake playing around with the weight of the charecters.
If you say the game is alot more balanced man with the gliches you are completely wrong, Cause not all the charecters have gliches and major gliches that would lead you to win.
the minor gliches are Jagi and Thouther as you said
as for Juda’s CD attack it stays longer than any other CD
But the major ones is Rei, Roah, Mamiya, Toki, Mr heart, and shin
so it all depends on who is your opponent and who you are using, for example
roah Vs rei,
Everyone knows that Roah has a Deadly combo and he would never let you go ifyou used it correctly and he has a special gliche on Rei that he stabs him down with his weopan and he would not escape.
It really depends on which charecter you are using.
Rei also has a Gliche is infinte Shuryuken, from what i know I saw Rei used this gliche only on Mamiya, Rei, Toki, and Roah and nothing else i do not know if it can be used on all charecters
As for shin I saw only one video which is properly used accurately the gliche and this was with Ken, i saw other videos of shin that is used on Jagi, but i do not know if the person who play shin did the gliche correctly, if shin by Any chance has a Gliche that can be used on ALL charecters then therefore Shin is the most powerful charecter regarding that Glich itself, because this gliche enables you not to be hit by anyone or anything at all.
yet i can go on and on… but what i wanted to say is even gliches has its counters and un - counters and body weight of charecters do affect the charecters on the game due to the Developers and yet the developers themselves are to blame, since the game only consist of 10 charecters and look at the gliches they have found, and only 10 charecters, its not like marvel vs capcom 2 like a whole load of charecters.
Wtf do people just make shit up now?
Toki is like God.
fixed for you.
Damn man ammo, it´s glitch, not gliche… I almost died reading that post…
What are you talking about? If you ever play this game, Mamiya has no grab at all:sweat: That means if you are good at block mid/low attacks, Mamiya can’t really touch you other than using the unblockable heavy strike. Of course Mamiya’s mid/low mix up is quick and her helmlet bomb > heavy strike is brutal. She doesn’t need a throw to kill you.
Ken is not very powerful. Generally he only gets 50-60% life in a regular combo. His 100% only starts from a CD and he need at least 2 boost to even start it (and probably at least 1 super bar).
Toki kills you if he throws you. Period. He doesn’t need bar at all. His combo will build up enough bar during the beginning that he will have enough by the time he needs it. His throw KILLS YOU. 100%, no question.
Raoh hits you with ANYTHING and you die. He has infinites off every hit he has, on anybody, and none of them even require any meter to do the combo.
Rei has 100%'s from any setup (with enough bar) and an infinite on almost the entire cast. ANY setup is an infinite if he has 2 boost stock.
Juda doesn’t even need a mixup. His unblockable setups are for all accounts inescapable and totally safe. He just does something and he gets stars and damage, if you are lucky enough he also doesn’t 100% you. Juda doesn’t have to have guessing games because his shit just hits no matter what.
Hell, even Heart is more of a powerhouse. He has massive damage combos on everyone that come off his B. Random hits from Heart turn into 50% easily, and a really good Heart player will just kill you if he hits you (combo into Iteyo into Tornado Loop).
Ken sucks by comparison to the top tier cast. I know all of Ken’s combos because I play him, I know what kind of damage he CAN do. That doesn’t mean he’s a powerhouse. He’s garbage compared to characters like Raoh and Toki.
And again, the command grabs have nothing to do with what weight you are. Factors like whether you have a command throw, how much damage you take, how fast you fall, are all separate numbers that are not related to each other. The developers didn’t screw up anything, they made the characters exactly the way they wanted to.
And yes, this game is a LOT more balanced now that it used to be. Before, the game was Toki, and Toki was the ONLY character who could win, PERIOD. There was no reason to pick anyone else, Toki destroyed the entire rest of the cast, nobody could even touch him. Rei liked to pretend he was a decent character, and he could beat most of the rest of the cast, but he wasn’t Toki.
Now, Toki is at least matched by Raoh, and Yuda and Rei are both very good too. The tiers are a LOT tighter than they were before. It doesn’t matter that your favorite character happens to be shitty, the game itself is better balanced.
As for the Thouther thing… he only gets more than one star off j.214A because the move has 2 parts. Each part can only knock off -1 star. You may be right that it was intentional by the developers, but there’s no real telling.
Still think Juda and Heart are cheap, GB? Good Heart player don’t use Tornado loop for unstable problem. Though Iteyo is very stable and powerful. Anyway, just play the game more…
Kenshiro: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=1B0FB8C33452CF39
DK: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=9852BDF426E9B172
Toma: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=6B685665BBB619BA
Raoh: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=D7AE042B90DF28A6
G.X.: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=416566EE16AE6DBA
Msin: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=D753218A09247E89
Toki: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=FC77F297A22BD8FD
Shiro: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=C7CDE55F5EE56CB7
Kurenai no Buta: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=52C5E4D423236DC2
Momiage: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=280749BAE752B736
Jagi: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=949DADEAE0538D19
Zen: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=A5C9031260B715D0
Shin: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=92A94ACF2C9BAF07
Tomono: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=B157D26BC8734C19
Naori: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=0FD3CE13B2B9AFA6
Gensetsu: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=B619F397E98A3FED
Rei: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=36BE77FB3CA83CF0
Tetsu: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=5545E9AE1FD2BC93
Bantyo: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=6AF8BABE9B2E1E23
KI: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=DEA4F06AA2F7A406
Juda: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=C00C4383205CA69C
White: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=50E3DCD947E66FAC
White(combo): http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=F4DE8A72BD35DF00
Taji-kun: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=FE49DE2CAAD8ADFB
Souther: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=B639C3873B7C2C02
Mr.Heart: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=0EB719CF6339F90A
Keith: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=184F2DD24AC45D44
Mamiya:
Nax: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=88E0C690552A23C9
Pochi: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=D414EFC2B643042A
Edit: Fixed…
Bonus, could Ken beat Yuda?
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:u: You need to post the full link, not shortened out versions…
I still think Juda´s the most interesting character. I love the fact that he has helpers, makes he´s mix-up potential almost infinite. I just can´t wait to play the game… Toki´s by far the most boring, his teleport mix-ups, even though they´re powerful, are just gay as hell. So are his wall combos come to think of it…
can someone explain what happens at 0:24?
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it looks like an infinte that takes off all stars!? is raoh being OTG’d repeatedly or is it like a throw juggle?
EDIT: ok, I think it’s an OTG but why is it possible?!
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http://www.filebank.co.jp/guest/popopo1919/touzaitaikai
Pass:Hokuto
Wow. At this rate somebody is going to discover a way to win the match at the character select screen.
Well i was a a tourney one month ago and i saw a bug that made the one who lost the match win it.
That was a Raoh vs Thouther match, Raoh was leading by 2 rounds vs 1, the 4th round ended in time over and draw game so it was 3-2 for Raoh, the match ended there but Thouther was the winner, everyone was 
It’s not quite OTG, Heart’s command throw can throw people out of the air while in Iteyo mode. There just happens to be a glitch where Heart can just throw forever because of it. Really old infinite though.
And yes, Heart will always be cheap because he’s incredibly effective for how easy he is to use at low/mid levels of play.
hmm, so that super, iiteiyo, is it like genei jin or something? I assumed it was a stand alone super move, does it allow him to combo more effectively or something? also does it wear off? forgive my total noobness regarding this game, we don’t have an arcade with this game in the UK yet 
I want to learn both heart and ken when I finally get a chance to play it (probably when the PS2 version comes out)so I’m trying to find out as much as I can about them.
thanks 
I´m trying not to overload my self with HNK stuff untill it comes out, I don´t want it become one of those games where you wait so long you don´t care any more. Very much like Twighlight Princess… Couldn´t give a crap…
Juda´s my boy!
DESK
from what I see… that itteyo super lets Ken go directly behind the opponent on contact of your opponents attack and if I read it correctly on the faq you have to tap forward for him to do it only after the move is activated… It does carry on from round to round but can only use seven times… If I’m wrong hook a nigga up and educate me cause I can’t wait to play the fuck out of this game jap or US…
Ken Rei and Roah Power!!!
Raoh´s a skank, nuts to him… And everyone thought Sol´s dust loop was gay… LOL, yeah right…
New Yuda combo:
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Why are you posting the same video that deadly magneto had already uploaded and posted?