The Nerfing of Rachel

It just takes her meter to start doing damage. And she doesn’t get too much meter.

Lookie lookie:

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if she at least still had old level 1 j2C i would play her despite ALL the other nerfs

No. Rachel, sucks. Period. She’s terrible. She went from broken to miserable. This topic has been done 80 billion times though. Rachel was honestly over nerfed. She deals no damage, has terrible pressure. Has no reliable “Get the fuck off me” moves. Her eggs have horrible recovery and startup. George no longer hops. Her damage is pathetic. Her normals sucks. All she has is the wind to run away to keep from dying.

Personally, as a Hakumen player, I couldnt have any less empathy for rachel players. Rachel tears feed my sustenance. the shit that happened to me in CT from that Hoe, I’ll never forget.

I hate double posting, but this post is really fucking stupid. Who the fuck do you play? Also, Rachel was better than V-13. V-13 just took no effort to play. You kind of had to know what you were doing with her in CT.

What the fuck is wrong with your logic. How did nu players get it bad? Their character went from S-Tier to going even with almost everyone (So the better player always wins) and is still tournament viable?

Rachel went from number 1 to the fucking floor. Rachel has like no good matchups, so I dont know what the fuck you’re talking about at all

From the old Match up chart, Rachel had 3 even matches:

  1. Hazama
  2. Arakune
  3. Rachel

2 of those mean something. Both of them are considered much better now than when that match up chart was created. It’s safe to say that Rachel has absolutely NO good matches.

Plus Rachel is harder to use than like half of the rest of the cast…

Hakumen and Makoto. Mainly Makoto. And she DEFINITELY has a good matchup against Makoto.

The point I’m making is that all the belly aching isn’t warranted. She can still win. Sure some people (most people) are gonna destroy her little frail body, but she can STILL do damage, she can STILL lock you in a fucking corner and chip you, she can STILL zone you out unless you have Hakumen’s reach or a projectile.

Bottom tier in a pretty balanced game ain’t all that bad. Besides, 90% of the cast has no “Get off me” moves AT ALL, so calm that shit down. Don’t act like having a dope reversal is what make a character good. As we’ve said a number of times, the only normals she needs are the ones that lead directly into combos, whether on a counter hit or not. 6A is STILL a good move and it goes directly into a LOT of her air combos.

She’s not as good as she once was, but she can still get wins. Fucking Sagat players, I swear man.

No, just no. Rachel does NOT have a good matchup against Hakumen nor Makoto. It’d be 5-5 at best, maybe 4.5-5.5 in Mak’s favor for the same reasons as Rachel vs Tsubaki matchup. But Rachel can play keep away on them since they have small range, since parry seed will lead to CH combo for Rachel.

She can still win, if the other player sucks. Most people, as in 99% of the time she should be getting destroyed. She can still do damage, but incredibly pitiful damage. She CANNOT lock you down in a corner and CANNOT chip you. If you don’t know how to avoid it from Rachel, you just plain suck at it. She can zone you, but nobody should be having a hard time getting in on her or outzoning her themselves.

Bottom Tier might not be that bad in a pretty balanced game, but when you are talking about Bottom Tier with Rachel, you are talking about off the charts of bottom tier, that she doesn’t even belong in the game. She never had a reversal in CT, we know you don’t have to have a dope reversal to make a character good. Though if you’re as bad as Rachel, you’d hope to at least have one. 6A is not a good move, have you seen the hitbox? http://tinyurl.com/39oppf9 Yes, it is very sad indeed, and clashes with many jump attacks makes it worthless to even being used as an antiair. It does NOT directly go into a LOT of her air combos. It is not jump cancellable. I believe you’re thinking about 5B against a floating opponent.

She isn’t as good as she once was, she’s A LOT WORSE, to the point where she shouldn’t be getting any wins at all.

Word is in CSII, Rachel’s normals are getting a damage boost. Is there a confirm or deny to this statement?

The game is being location tested. Nothing being reported is official. Tweaks are being made, and play tested. So confirm and deny basically. Yes in the most recent location test, Rachel had a lot of buffs. Nothing is final until the official release

Yeah, I’ve read the same thing. I wonder what buffs she would need to get her mid-tier or better without putting her at #1-3 again. Supposedly Arakune is back up there. And John Talbain is apparently broken good.