cam347
2101
the 3rd video u posted dont work.
Now for my questions. What is Asura’s BnB combo? There’s so many commands in it that I tend to forget
For Iori, is sweep, roll cancel, Demon Scorcher (A) really worth the bar. Maybe when that will kill the last opponent ok. Sure enough it is pretty niffty looking. But in the meantime it seems u would wanna use that one stock for a Maiden Masher for punishment situations. Toast To Eight for spacing, or perhaps your team-mate could get more use outta the bar. heh?
you get free meter with iori since all hist stuff is good for the most part. But yes it all depends on what you want. You’d have to ask P-Soul more questions cause I don’t play Iori.
I will follow up with all this movie comments shortly guys I assure you…bnb with Asura…there’s many cam…I know you saw some on Orochinagi as well…and those are the ones they are using on the vids.
The Roll Cancel combo is good and also is good to practice Roll Cancel mixups because if your sweep is blocked you can recover and then Scum Gale then do other things etc.
Iori builds meter good as Sie said as well.
Video comments-Last video once again proves what I have discovered-Dio vs. Hotaru=hard match for Dio…
And her Orgasm Super as show in the vid is an overhead…
-Marco’s Knife Stance st.a has autoguard…
Also Am I the only one with Dio that mixes up using his air move instead of just all the time whoring the Air Drill???
And about Dio…I’d use his Freeze Grab…its good…I saw in that vid many situations where the Dio user just went for safe strings and combos to build meter but did not utilize the Freeze Grab to get the opponent out of blockstun…
Just something I see.
Also with Asura whoever needs his bnb you can see what they use in the vids and see that they end with a drill to push them back safe…
You know what they are using in the vids right as Asura’s bnb correct?
Quick questions. How are Marco and Shermie in this game? They seem like they suck, but I would’nt really know, heh, seeing as how I don’t have constant access to this game right now.
Marco is Almost top tier…Marco is hella good dude trust me…just you have to take time to master him…watch the vids…they make it obvious just how good Marco is…
Take some tips from those vids to start using him…
Shermie on the other hand can do great damage…and can excel in the corner like Marco…but her lack of projectile hurts her and some matchups can exploit her weakness.
Marco is next best thing to S class…some argue Marco is S Class easily.
cam347
2107
the reason Marco is not S class I believe is due to his traps and all. U can’t compare him to any other char in the SNK series really. While Mr. Big is just, build bar, turtle, look for openings and combo to super (or so I’m told). Marco is comeplete opposite. Or for another example. If u know Ryu then u should know Ken, few differences but already know the fundamentals. Make it short, Marco is not a char. u cant just automatically pick up but none the less, he does rape ppl
Roski
2108
Marco standing A has auto gaurd? I’ve never had that happen. Maybe you’re thinking about the parry? Or maybe I’m completely wrong. 
Marco is crazy. He has to be the most fun character in the game. The Free Man is too good. :wgrin:
I saw in the vid the knife in Knife stance unless that was indeed the parry…looked like a normal attack in knife stance.
Marco is easily the most fun character in the game…but he takes work…
You cannot just pick him up and expect to destroy good players…noobs yes…good players no.
I dunno if saying Marco’s traps are why he isn’t S Class…be more specific…
Because if anything his Far St. C Knife Loop should be a good reason to include him in the S Class.
Now he has a main weakness…right over his head…
Big is played Chun Li 3s style…same way…but with more rushdown…
Who do you guys think gets the worst character award??
Roski
2110
Geese yeah that’s his parry. He throws the knife up but it’s not st.A, it’s a separate command. He eats damage when you do it, but after his parry though you can get guaranteed knife attacks - one of the only ways to hit them with the Marco Shoryu. :wgrin:
Tung is probably the worst character in the game - or maybe Ai. All the other characters who could be voted in for this spot have actual uppercuts I think, which make them better by default.
Ahhh gotcha…Yuki no? I think Yuki is possibly the worst…But yeah Tung and Ai are pretty close…With Yuki as we stated before he has to constantly charge…something not allowed in this game…
About his parry…is the damage he takes using it more or less than if you were to take the damage head on?
Im wondering because in the vid I saw Marco “parrying” Asuras arrows…does this make him take less damage than head on? Or the same but yet yields you advantage?
Also does it only parry highs, lows? overheads,projs,ALL? What are its attributes?
cam347
2112
will what I meant with why he isnt S tier is cause his knife loops aren’t easy to pick up on. I mean if could just get them in corner and mash 1 button for the loop ok sure. Liek u have to knwo each knife attack, the properties, needa build upa rhythm and all for the trap all blah blah
Roski
2113
Yeah Marco’s knife strings are somewhat difficult execution wise. I mean the ender is only a fireball, but it’s got real tight execution much like Hotaru’s dp. When the knife hits, you can do A, C, fireball C to combo, but when blocking, you NEED to do fireball A for the quicker attack because it gives them much less time to do something thru the string. The problem there is that you have to be VERY specific on the fireball A command, because A cancels from either hit. It looks easier than it is imo.
Geese, his parry looks like it reduces the damage he would normally take on hit by about half. You can parry most anything (ground attacks, lows (I believe), air attacks, rush supers, dm projectiles, etc.), and a lot of the knife attacks are guaranteed afterwards. In the video when I was parrying Asura’s stuff, there wasn’t any real point to it, other than playing like a dumbass. :wgrin:
Kim, BIG, and to an extent Iori can really give Marco problems. He can eat up Kaede though, and Hotaru somewhat. Kim’s slide move goes under grenades and far C, BIG can pretty much torpedo anything Marco does on reaction, plus BIG’s spin shuts down far C, and Iori’s low D is troublesome in getting out grenades.
Yeah by those tokens I knew about that and can see Marco not being S Class. But by the token that the Knife Loops aren’t easy…not necessarily…
Because Hotaru’s stuff aint super easy…Yuns Genei Jin isnt easy to master…
So technicality doesnt necessarily play a factor if it is worth learning and very powerful…
And Marcos loop is very powerful.
Yeah I would agree those are his toughest matchups…
Kisarah and Athena can give Marco trouble because their slides go under grenades as well…And other reasons of course :badboy:
As Marco if he isnt being too cookie cutter :rolleyes: and notices the slide problem he can start using cr.a light gun shot to snuff out low attempts. Yes in theory his Punching glove normal or his double kick sweep would work, but I see some lows going under that…
Because I love fighting cookie cutter Marcos…oh god their patterns are too easy to read…
And too easy to beat…For cookie cutter Marcos once you get in on them they are done!!!
I’ve finally got my Mizuchi game up to full level again…even though it’s still nothing specatular. But when I can max out the hit counter with his sun projectile loop, I’m pretty happy. I really love using Mizuchi against Marco though. As long as I keep him at a distance I’m good, and if I time it right, I can use the autoguard on his c.D to go through knife attacks. :3
cam347
2116
Mizuki? u scrubby n00b
Will I found something very interesting with my homeboy Mars Peepz. He has the juggle resets like Kula has in XI. Hit an airborne opponent with any cancelable strong attack and u can combo Tungus Incident (d, d, + 
+ :c:) You can even do it off of a air-to-air attack. But only jumping C & jumping D.
So this gives him some decent Anti-Air options
Crouching C, Tungus
Standing close D, Tungus
you can also hit an opponent with a Tungus if a Mars Shot hits them while airborne as well.
I’m sorry, but Mizuchi takes some skill as opposed to the braindead Kaede, BIG and Kim. Doesn’t mean my Mizuchi is any good though. :rolleyes:
cam347
2118
my apologies. I only assumed because of him being a boss character.
I can rape with Mizuchi…hey Turbo…how about this…if you give me some gas money I will come to McKinney to pick you up tonight.
You’ve gotta keep your distance with Mizuchi vs. Marco…
Don’t get into a pillar/nade show down…
You will lose being Mizuchi…
And there are many things besides the Cr. D with autoguard that Mizuchi can do to take away almost ANYONES close up game…
People think Mizuchi is all keepaway…yes…mainly…but like Asura he has the tools to rape up close.
So today Turbo? PM me the address and I will see what I can do…
DG, that’s a done deal…the only thing is that I will be getting off of work at 8 tonight. If you want, I can give the address to my work and you can just come pick me up there. I’ll send you a PM. :lovin:
