Well that’s one of the things that I want to talk to the promoter about before signing anything. Right now, I have only agreed upon grappling in this tournament. However, they are the local “big” MMA promotion (I use the term “big” loosely, because our big is still relatively small compared to overseas promotions), and I want to verify with him that they aren’t expecting me to fight dat pro UFC right away (before I’m ready to do so.)
http://www.cagepotato.com/timing-error-robs-maiquel-falcao-submission-victory-ufc-123
I was screaming about this shit on Saturday. I was like wtf fastest 13 seconds ever. Poor Falcao, because after that everyone was talking shit about him. If his fight had ended in that round, he would have been “the next Anderson Silva” on the message boards, no doubt.
edit: Oh, interesting. Thanks for the info. So I guess they just consider amateur more of like exhibition grappling then, as opposed to “once you go pro you’re no longer amateur”?
Machida vs Rampage, like Shogun vs Machida, wasn’t a robbery. But also like Shogun vs Machida, you fucking knew who won despite the decision. MMA judging is pretty fucking shitty, they continue to ignore the effects and damage of leg kicks and they almost score for nothing in the UFC or something.
Rampage knew he lost. All you fuckers who are rationalizing and making up bullshit excuses about how Rampage won, really, really? Get the fuck out. When the fighter himself reacted the way he did, nothing else needs to be said. Anything said to defend him is just pure biased bullshit.
Asians in the UFC need to knock people out like Gomi/Tyson Griffin or you ain’t winning DAT DECISION.
Yo RockBogart, I’d love to sit here and pretend you’re making a good case(if any at all) that Rampage won. But no matter how nice or good you think you sound, that shit just doesn’t have the same effect as Rampage, the fighter, the one who was in there fighting Machida, TELLING Machida and the WORLD that Machida won.
I’m sorry man, Rampage’s words > yours, I know, I know, it’s hard to go against you because you train DAT UFC. But Imma have to go with 'Page on this one.
I’d be laughing at myself too if I just now realized that I’m arguing with the fighter himself on whether he lost or not (Protip: Rampage admitted he lost, to Machida no less).
Get em
i read on the sherdog forums something that made sense.
“machida won the fight, rampage won the contest”
i think that sums it up perfectly.
wait…to get belts you have to know the japanese names for shit? is that normal? seems kinda silly.
Looks like Dana is making room for budgeting for the WEC… that kinda sucks though… gerald harris wasnt bad… weird dana is weird.
Gerald Harris may not be bad. But he wasn’t good either. Looked like complete ass in this past show. Shouldn’t of even shown that fight on the PPV.
All these sports websites hyping him up because of a slam knockout he got in the last 15 seconds to secure a fight he was going to lose.
Keep cuttin weak ass fighters Dana. Keep on cutttinnn
I thought Harris was overrated myself. But still a cut after 1 loss now? Ouch. He didn’t exactly look like he wanted to win that fight when it came down to the third round either.
Man, Phil Davis seems like a really cool guy outside of the cage, I’m gonna root for this guy from now on. Even if he does look like an offspring of Dwight Howard.
Yeah? That’s a pretty bad way of doing it…and this goes towards other shit i’ve said all along. Dana wants this to be bigger than the NFL, but he runs it like some low rent fight club. How the fuck you have your commentators not knowing the rules on the air is fucking brutal. Any other sport that is worth it’s salt. those rules are written the fuck down…by number and if someone on air doesn’t knkow it or makes a mistake, they correct themselves the next play stoppage. And im just thinking now…the judges score differently? does anyone else think that’s even more fucked up? How do you have one sport, one fight, one set of rules and 4 people doing 4 different things. Like i don’t agree with people that say it’s a dumb sport and it’s just goofs beating each other with no skill…but when they can’t even get their rules straight…come on.
well i don’t know anything about grappling tournies or anything like that so i’m assuming some of their rules come into play. Honestly i think you should get a point for a takedown…and you should get a point if you get back to you feet from the guy holding you down. If you take take him down and do nothing…well to me that’s just like standing up and walking around in circles…why should you get a points for that. And that leads me to anohter fucked up thing about their judging. They base fights on aggersion and octagon control…and from what i’ve seen they just judge all that on if you are walking forward…um wtf. So two guys don’t do shit the whole fight…not one punch if thrown…but the guy walking forward wins cause he’s walking forward??? Forward or backwards your both doing the same shit…walking. bullshit.
ha…can you count to ten yet?
i kinda agree, but if one person is walking forward and no punches are getting thrown then that means the other person is backing/running away.
walking forward >>> running away.
if the person backing away is doing damage then that’s another story all together.
I read something that said that Gerald Harris tapped on multiple occasions during the fight. I don’t know if there’s truth behind it, but if there is I wonder if that has anything to do with it?
True. Fair enough.
Cage Potato has something about him being at the end of his contract. Maybe they just couldn’t come to an agreement. I imagine after two KOTN, he wanted some more compensation, but after his latest showing they weren’t interested in upping his pay by too much. Who knows.
I didn’t mean overrated in the sense that he wasn’t a good fighter. Even though his stance screamed “please kick my head off”. I just didnt expect him to be on the main card of a PPV. On top of that it was against a newcomer. My group of friends who I usually watch MMA who consider themselves “hardcore fans because we used to watch Pride” didn’t know anything about Harris or Falcao even with Harris being on TUF. I’ll always remember him because my last name is Branch. lol
what?? why? explain to me why just because your walking forward that’s better. i know lots of people that are defensive fighters and counter fighters and don’t pressure the other guy. so why just because your walking it’s better than the other guy walking. it’s fucking stupid. that really should have no bearing at all on a fight. if your doing a better job of controlling the ring and where your opponent is going that’s one thing…but just walking around is nothing.
Do they? rogan is about as knowledgeable as anyone about mma, and i don’t think he even understands the rules and how the ufc is judged. and that is really brutal.
Why? isn’t it…what reason is there that it’s not? It’s a sport, it’s got rules, there’s things you do that score points…i don’t see any reason why it isn’t “cut and dry” that just sounds like an excuse.
Inst the issue here thats its highly subjective? I mean your saying walking forward is the same as walking backward but if you ask someone else walking forward > walking backward because at least your pushing the action or moving to engage. I mean if both people are walking backwards you dont have a fight. Someone has to engage even if it is useless walking forward.
I think this is the main issue overall. I mean take the following
-Person A gets a take down on person B and they get back up with nothing else happening
-Person A gets credit for getting the take down in the first place which makes sense but
-Should person B get credit for getting up and getting out of a bad position and if so should person B get the same credit for this as person A did for taking them down. Also how long did it take for person B to get back up, wouldn’t the amount of time person A held them down count for keeping dominant position
your post is incorrect. there is no true standard for what scores points. it’s all at the judge’s discretion. some judges don’t score leg kicks. some don’t score sub attempts. some over value take downs. some dont give credit for bottom work.etc.