The Magic: The Gathering Thread

That’s a good card. Trying to figure what I’d run it with but it’s definitely going to be useful. Maybe Bant? Spell Queller is still beast and I actually like that new Angel with an ORing strapped to it and Embalm.

I was wondering, with all this new Gideon talk, do you think there will ever be a card with “destroy target emblem”? I’m thinking something like a 4 or 5 mana sorcery that says “destroy target artifact, enchantment, or emblem”

Obviously I think emblems are something not technically meant to be interacted with, but there are cards that let you play stuff outside the game or exiled so maybe it’s just a matter of time?

This has a weird kind of potential. Like obviously it screams load a deck full of cats but outside of that it’s 7 damage on an empty boardstate with an 11 point lifeswing. There are a couple of cats as well. Felidar Guardian obviously which can flicker it but there are also a handful of playable Energy cats like Aetherstream Leopard, Longtusk Cub and Riparian Tiger. The new Prowling Serpopard is definitely playable as well.

This thing has an oddly huge amount of potential as well,

You’d run 4 copies of Servant of the Conduit and you can easily just -1 your mana dork to swing for 5 on turn 3.

^ this is just asking for someone to build a Green stompy list as well. Standard is full of stuff like Green Hulk, World Breaker, Rishkar and other ways to just pump out Green creatures.

Sorry for the triple post but pure speculation is that a new tier one deck could be Exert.

Always Watching combined with Combat Celebrant and Champion of Rhonas. The rest of the deck is flexible but you could run Servant and Channeler Initiate to load up on 4 drops with Vizier of the Menagerie and run a playset of the Glorybringer Dragon as well. Glorybound Initiate is good as well. There’s plenty of room to expand on the concept but the basic idea of running Always Watching with Exert creatures and how strong Combat Celebrant and Champion of Rhonas are should make the deck ridiculous.

Oh yes, more flickering cats. Exactly what Standard needed.

Also God Damn It I somehow thought BFZ was rotating. After I get my damn playmat I will take a break from Standard maybe unless a cool GB midrange deck comes out.

Ashiok

That would be cool, but then there’d be a lack of Red planeswalkers in the set, even counting Bolas. I think it’s Tibalt’s time to shine. Or, if not, a Red Amonkhet native.

They should do like a story where the gatewatch just shit the bed on protecting a plane (dominaria) and they all commit suicide to use the energy of their spark to recreate it. BUT they can only really get it kick-started, so it’s like a very primitive world with like mythical dinosaurs and cavemen and shit.

Lol

“Could” lol more like “Will”

Gideon is for sure seeing play in Legacy. Just for starters DnT will run 1 over the other Gideon or side by side and its funny because on Sunday I opted to play the Solider Legacy deck for fun and was talking to another guy at the ship who plays the same deck and said it really needs a good 3 drop plainswalker/white pitch dork and someone was like maybe the new Gideon(had not seen it). I was like whats it do and they said it and I laughed and said no really.

  1. Its removal/allows you to get around a brick walls and hits even crap like mishras factory etc…
  2. Its a creature
  3. It can steal games.

I will be running 1 for sure in the 75 of the solider list as he becomes one and both the other effects are just to good.

Not broken level but very good and could be a top 6 plainswalker very much a possibility as far as upside.

It dying to Decay is the only real flaw but thats not terrible.

Although I agree, I’m just saying what some videos were discussing. Even though I know very little about lore, some of the points people were making in both lore and visual design makes it convincing. I don’t know too many other potentially “villainous” planeswalkers, but Ashiok seems like the only other planeswalker within reason that Nicol Bolas could respect.

In other news:

Has my pick for excitement. Although he would be great against lantern, lantern is a pretty favored match-up for burn. If the melira combo ever becomes a thing again, it would be a cool hedge against it albeit wouldn’t be an instant win. He looks like he could be fun against affinity or even eldrazi displacer. I could probably think bigger but the things this guy hits are plenty.

I am both disappointed and happy that this set seems to have better zombie tribal content than soi or emn.

New Nissa got spoilt. She’s like a GU repeatable weaker version of CoCo with an X in her mana cost

gl with that

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=397677&type=card

Speaking of why wouldn’t you just throw him into a Prison Fort deck. You know the Ghostly Prison one.

And we got a 3/4 double strike, flash, haste, vigilance who gives all your creatures haste in standard for 5 (So outside of push range and just before grasp rotates)

I’m thinking Jund might just get to be a thing again in standard.

I know at prerelease I’m gonna be picking red as one of my colors. Some REALLY good aggro cards in red this time around.

So Harsh Mentor might be my new BFF. Tried him in Dragon Stompy and he was ok and might replace revoker but now Legacy Human Prison Stompy got its last piece is needed. Gonna need a lot more testing and tweeking but so far today its been a lot better than I thought it would of been.

4 Thalia, Guardian of Thraban
4 Harsh Mentor
4 Thalia’s Lieutenant
4 Thalia, Heretic Cathar
4 Magus of the Moon
4 Hanweir Garrison
2 Recruiter of the Guard
2 Palace Jailer

4 Chrome Mox
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Suppression Field

6 Plains
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Cavern of Souls
4 Plateau
2 Arid Mesa

1 Palace Jailer
1 Sanctum Prelate
1 Cunning Smarksmith
2 Faerie Macabre
1 Containment Priest
1 Ethersworn Canonist
2 Disenchant
1 Mirran Crusader
1 Selfless Squire
1 Council’s Judgement
2 Swords to Plowshares
1 Thorn of Amethyst


Best God by far…Curves so well with Heart and Gideon imo

(Ugh. So much to catch up on. Figured I would start here.)

Amonkhet is actually looking surprisingly good outside of there being another obnoxiously overpowered form of Gideon…when the most obnoxiously overpowered form of Gideon isn’t rotating out like it was originally going to and still hasn’t been banned like it or Felidar Guardian should have been because of “face” value and sheer incompetence respectively.

Oh well. If that’s the worst thing about this set as opposed to say the absolutely genius idea of nigh noninteractive Vehicles or actually noninteractive energy counters, then that’s a vast improvement over both at least Kaladesh block and Battle for Zendikar block.

I must admit that I was a bit worried initially when it looked WotC was again pushing only two and a half colors at max–White (Gideon), Black (Liliana), and Green (pushed creatures & Nissa)–at first, but most of the recent Red cards ranged from “usable” to “extremely good”. Glorious End falls on the latter side of that scale:

Among other things, I find it hilarious that Red gets what is technically (another?) hard counterspell before Black gets one. As if Dash Hopes didn’t get enough hate already. The fact that Glorious End can change into itself is even funnier. I am also surprised it doesn’t exile itself.

Yeah. It’s super weird, even with the standardizing of the barely used Mummy subtype to the far more used Zombie subtype making it nigh inevitable in an Egyptian themed block. Even before the two new mono-White Zombie Tribal cards that were just revealed–Binding Mummy and Time to Reflect–got spoiled, most of the new Black-related Zombie stuff shown so far is better than basically all of the Zombie stuff that we got in SoI or EMN outside of Cryptbreaker and I guess technically Liliana, the Last Hope.

The fact that Binding Mummy is Common as well just makes me want to see if that old MTGO account I signed up years ago but never got to use actually still works just because it seems like it would be rather fun to try to make a Black-White Zombie deck in Pauper.

The fact White got a version of Parallel lives makes me definitely feel that tokens will be a playable deck in this block.

Naya with Always Watching and Exert will be tier one. Cheating creatures, extra combat phases, it’s just going to get dumb.