@Yusuke_The_Detective of course he has a right to be pissed. So all the pre fight shit talk and calling low tier god a bitch in his face and shit was his right to do so. But after beating him 10-6 and earning $200 bucks, you won. It’s over now, especially if you have the first opportunity to speak, and if you use that opportunity not to be mature about the situation and to proactively talk more shit, you are kicking a downed opponent and that’s not respectable. Even if you think that downed opponent is disrespectful, you have to have self respect.
Being respectful to people who have threatened you and badmouthed you is stupid as hell.
If you don’t want to get it rubbed in your face don’t talk shit then lose and try to OS your way out of it at every possible turn.
I have some varying thoughts on this. Granted, with regards to Viscant, they’re all positive. I was pulling for him (I tend to pull for oldschool players), and I thought he was far more interested in being a real person than getting overly caught up in manufactured drama, laying out at the end why he was offended by some remarks. I don’t know how to feel about this being made a ‘big deal’ and how it only adds validity to this “Low Tier God” joker. I don’t want there to be a part 2, as was hinted at by Valle. There doesn’t need to be a part 2. I think Viscant is smart enough to know that.
its called maturity, especially with these 30+ year old men. You are ignoring the fact that the shit talking was done on both sides to build up the match, and once the match was finished, the first person to continue talking shit was NOT Low tier fraud, it was viscant, which makes him just as much of a dirt bag as low tier god after the match. Having maturity and self respect is what shows the difference between the men and the boys. Viscant had that chance, he won, he put the shame of defeat onto low tier god, he collected his money, and had the first opportunity to speak. He started out well by “son’ing” LTG by telling him that the reason why he was mad at LTG, was not because of the game (which would be pathetic, and the reason why LTG was salty), but because the comments he made disrespected a noble cause that he puts effort into. LTG called viscant a junkie, a vampire, zombie etc, to lose to him and find out he works 2 jobs to provide for the people he loves, and that with the little time he has left, he donates that time to help people in need. If he were to end it on that note, what could low tier god have said? nothing, he would have to tuck his tail between his legs and walk away ashamed into disparity. And if he continued to talk shit, everyone would just roll their eyes and laugh at the guy for being a JOKE. But instead, Viscant tried to kick the guy when he was down, by implying he put his dick in his mouth with that level of a beating, that he was broke working at mcdonalds and would need to work overtime etc etc… thats when you lost your credibility, and put yourself back on fair game, and enabled the loser to talk more shit to you. If you have any self respect and maturity, you don’t kick someone in the head after you knock them out, you walk off like the boss for what you did, you don’t need to further emphasize the point to the level of disrespect again, or else whats the difference between you and your opponent?
it’s not hard to understand, “two wrongs don’t make a right” in laymen terms. I don’t even like LTG either, ive 7-0’ed that guy online and had him send me numerous salty messages. But that dislike won’t give me a bias to ignore the principal in the situation.
You’re missing the fact that it wasn’t about the game.
LTG is an asshole and loser, period. The guy got beat by Viscant way back, and then decided to make a video defaming Viscant. He basically portrayed Viscant as some sort of loser who is anti-social and doesn’t talk to women. At that point it was/is no longer about the game itself. That’s not trash talk anymore, that’s public humiliation. Its also quite well known that LTG is a rage-quitter and shit-talker in general, and he tries to act like some gangster tough guy. Like, bro, you’re a nerd who plays fighting games like the rest of us.
IMO, he should be banned from Super Arcade. I want to see Street Fighter being played, not some Jerry Springer bullshit.
LTG has been trash-talking Viscant’s skill ingame for months while ducking most of Viscant’s offers to match him and losing most of the ones he did take. He then decided to put him up in a video as an example of the reason why FGC people are single and talked shit about him as a productive member of society and refused to apologize or really do anything to mitigate the situation when Viscant called him out for it, continuing to duck Viscant at every turn.
It stopped being about the game at that point. Viscant didn’t come there to beat him in the game. or at least, that wasn’t the only reason. He came there to personally deliver a verbal beatdown to LTG, win or lose.
If it’s any sign of the ocean between them regarding maturity, just look at each players respective twitter feed. Viscant moved on quickly after posting a few thoughts about his play during the match while LTG is still trying to defend his honor with homophobic(because of the dick and mouth comment) and more “try to see me outside of the game” comments. Dude just doesn’t know when to shut up and shows his immaturity and lack of education(even though he is supposedly on his way to a bachelors…shudder)with each post. However, Viscant proabably would have been better off w/o his trash talk after the game because all LTG is is a troll(Though I really can’t fault the guy for doing it). You should never feed the troll. And that’s really the bottom line. Stop feeding this dude he hasn’t earned his reputation. Show up, beat him, keep it real, and move on.
super arcade rallying around this living, breathing scrubquotes is pretty hilarious
if he wasn’t a 6’7 jacked football player, would anyone give a fuck about this guy at all? if he was some scrawny viscant lookin kid would people rally behind this guy based on his actions?
probably not
ps I <3 u viscant you are my hero forever and always
if it wasn’t about the game, LTG would have beat up viscant in the parking lot, i wouldn’t put it past a rage quiting, salt spewing knuckle head like him. The video? Viscant could have gotten that taken down with one flag on it to youtube indicating his picture being used with out his consent, or by making that a condition in their wager match. If it wasn’t about the game, when viscant got the first opportunity to speak after winning the ft10, and directing his following message to LTG, LTG wouldn’t have stepped back in (he was walking away from the crowd) with his mouth closed looking down humbled in defeat, and listen to what he had to say. LTG didn’t say anything until Viscant implied he put his dick in his mouth, that hes broke, a child etc… and whats the first thing LTG said after his dumb usual troll talk of “charge character this, shoto scrub that”, that viscant is a decent player, that this is a video game beef, and he wouldn’t strike him over a video game beef, and had left it to the video game. What did this all start from? oh yea a set in a game, which lead to another set in a game. I think it was about the game, your opinion’s are not fact.
The way i see this is:
viscant and LTG played a set, result 20-6 in viscants favor.
LTG sends the usual salty messages when he gets bodied by better players, as usual
Viscant doesn’t take the bait, he just bodied him.
LTG takes this into twitter, talks shit on a more personal level, wanting to get a rematch
Viscant is justified to talk shit back and does so
LTG makes a video taking personal shots at Viscant
Viscant responds on twitter talking shit, puts forth a rematch but with a $500 clause
LTG wants to avoid any money match, they go back and forth until LTG gets backed for a $200 MM ft10 hosted at super arcade
Super Arcade, Both show up, Viscant get’s the first interview, humbly says that he isn’t even good at the game, but that isn’t the point, he want’s to prove why LTG is trash, that he isn’t even putting up his own money on the line, hes an attention whore, and that if he wasn’t sponsored for this MM he would still be ducking him, running like a bitch.
LTG Gets in viscants face, attempting to intimidate him, ask’s him to call him a bitch again, but in is face (viscant call’s him a bitch twice in his face, good stuff), intimidation failed, goes to the mic for prematch interview, says hes only really went 5-3 in the first set, and that the following 15-3 was a troll session or w.e, and that hes going to take the money and donate it to Super arcade because he isn’t broke.
Match start, LTG loses 10-6, gets up with his tail between his legs, and attempts to walk away from the crowd in shame. Valle interviews Viscant who directs his message to LTG, LTG turns around with the look of defeat staring at his feet and walks back toward the crowd, Viscant goes on to why the comments LTG made are bullshit because of the noble cause he actually puts effort towards which work against those comments. He stops, a clap is about to go over the crowd, he pulls the mic back from valle to then talk more crap after its been all set and done, the rest i covered in the first paragraph.
LTG is wrong for talking crap and being a sore loser, Is wrong for using viscant’s image in a video without his consent. But we know LTG is an attention whore who is known for this type of behaviour. So all the back and forth shit talking after the 20-6 match up until the match started i think was all justified and fair game, but once Viscant defeated LTG, spoke some mature and respectable words, he was looking great, but when he pulled the mic back, talked a lot of shit, and then tried to say “okay now were done, me and you, DONE, no more gestures with his hand across his neck” yeaaaa did you really think you were going to try and talk shit like that last and then say “okay were done now, please comply and leave me alone” and thought that would fly? viscant may be smart, but naive as fuck.
I watched a LTG video once. I cringed so hard I almost shattered all the enamel in my mouth when he did his little LOW…TIER…GOOOOOOOOOOD thing he does and I immediately exited the video. I didn’t need to see anything else to know what sort of clown I was dealing with.
You can’t call Viscant out for anything even if he kept being a pussy about it.
LTG only had to once say Sorry, I should have done this or that. Only once. And he could have done that for several other concerns about him in the past.
This would clearly tell others that he’s trolling and shit, but that he doesn’t care much at the end and still respect people in real life. Just what he claims on that grudge video so loud.
Just back off once dude, just once.
Is Tali actually LTG trying to justify his hurt feelings?
Whatever.
No need to get down on his level.
When a 9-year old comes at you screaming “I WANT CANDY!”, you don’t hit him in the face or respond by screaming louder, is all I’m saying.
In my opinion Viscant didn’t use a chance to be the better man.
Don’t blame him for yelling at him, but I found the whole feud by LTG before the match and Viscant after the match laughable and immature.
By the way why does he call himself Low Tier God, when he plays Rose, Rolento and Poison arguably 2 high tier and a mid tier character?
Also what the fuck where those character switches anyways? Who the fuck plays a FT10 money match without character lock? That shit was so clowny.
And why does he get so much attention anyways? He’s got even lower production value on his videos than DSP and contentwise it’s the same flaming and swearing garbage with a higher level of play.
@Tali Viscant didn’t “ruin his image” btw either. How would you ruin your image for putting an asshole in his place, and if you win part of winning is being able to talk shit it’s a part of fighting games deal with it especially when the person deserves it. And either you’re not around people that much or you live in some kind of parallel world. Almost nobody is still going to show you respect if you come at them in such a manner. I damn sure ain’t gonna show anybody respect if they disrespect me like that.
TL;DR version: If you want respect you have to give it too.
Beef and childish comments aside, LTG isn’t that bad of a player. If he put his scrubby mindset aside and put some more work in, he could actually go places.
I think this is the point a lot of people are missing. When Viscant had the opportunity to be the better man, he almost took that opportunity, then ruined it by stooping just as low as LTG, except LTG beat him there with experience.
He was a lot better than I thought he was but he’s still pretty ass.
He did put the asshole in his place, when he won 10-6, stood up, did a taunt, and took his money. he then “ruined his image” after talking shit right after when he talked about being a whole hearted good person who works 2 jobs and helps the needy in his short free time. Now you just stooped down to his level. Had LTG started talking shit after the match, okay fine, Viscant can defend himself and talk shit right back, which would hold more weight. But don’t go on to say how much of a good person you are, and then stoop down to the same level of the asshole. what different are you now?
no, a part of winning is gaining bragging rights. Bragging and talking shit are two ENTIRELY different things. Do i really need to explain this?
it’s called self respect, dignity, honor… when the disrespect is happening on both sides, he said she said bullshit, you don’t try and sort that mess out, you find a common ground to conclude on. They did, it was a money match to conclude on. They sat down, competed and one person lost, the asshole. The bickering, shit talking, bullshit is over. No one is saying now to be friends or to shake hands or anything, just to leave it how it is now. Valle wanted thoughts on the match, and viscant didn’t have enough self respect and maturity to leave the situation as it was, and instead took shots first after a short semblance of peace was restored. That is the only knock i have on his actions. I was rooting for him, i liked the pre fight shit talking, i liked that he stared him straight in his eyes and called LTG a bitch in his face, called him out for being an attention whore and not putting up his own money on the line. I was rooting for him when he called LTG back to the crowd to burn him on the inside with insight into his life, but once the crowd got him too hype and he started to kick a downed opponent, nah man, thats a low blow, thats a universal rule, you don’t do that, and you look just as bad as the asshole now. I don’t see the difference anymore.
and flagging a comment as spam that is on topic, there is a disagree option for a reason, come on now.
ltg needs to grow up and isn’t really worth the attention. i thought about writing a long post showing how everything he’s done and said is cowardly and hypocritical and weak, but, it’s just really not worth it. it speaks for itself. there are plenty of players who can actually go places that aren’t huge douchebags.