You do you, but:

Interim Estimates of 2018-19 Seasonal Influenza Vaccine Effectiveness - United States, February 2019.

“During the 2017-18 influenza season, in which influenza A(H3N2) predominated, vaccination was estimated to prevent 7.1 million illnesses, 3.7 million medical visits, 109,000 hospitalizations, and 8,000 deaths (1). Vaccination can also reduce the severity of influenza-associated illness (2). Persons aged ≥6 months who have not yet been vaccinated this season should be vaccinated.”

Edit- jfc, didn’t mean to wall of text with the whole abstract, lol

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I haven’t had the Flu since 1998.

Got hit with a super bug, for a 105 degree temp, which is like a 107.5 for me, since I run 96.3 normally.

And got over it in less than a day.

Fuck a Flu vaccine.

I DID used get major sinus infections every winter.

I quit eating red meat, and haven’t had a single one, since.

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In essence pharmaceuticals create a cocktail of inert viruses with predicted mutations, but the effectiveness can vary from percentages in the single digits to percentages in the 60s on good years. Also, interim reports are not verified and are a work in progress.

If your point is that it isn’t perfect you’re right.

Still measurably better than nothing by a lot, especially at the population level.

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If it was a racing horse, I would not bet on it. In a heavily populated area the number of vectors for disease and carriers are too numerous for it to be effective. It is due to the way viruses propagate and evolve in response to their environment.


Even if we eyeball that and call the mean effectiveness at 30%, and those are Gizmodo numbers so who knows, 30% reduced burden of disease from influenza is fucking massive.

Probably more like 40% from those numbers if I actually do the math.

Wait a minute Maxx. Did you get married to the “Israeli Spy” from a couple of your stories way back, or another girl from Israel. It’s random, but I was curious.

Sarcasm: learn it.

I married Israeli spy

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Nice. How’s that been working out?

Eating the booty like hummus?

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It’s had its ups and downs…major cultural differences on stuff. ALOT of stuff prob should have been worked out earlier but Israelis don’t do long engagements so what can ya do. It’s a learning process which I’m down for

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Yet many cases are asymptomatic and unreported. Also outside the scope of those figures is the propagation of mutated strains in response to vaccination of influenza.

P.S. Sarcasm is counterproductive to communication.

Asymptomatic cases aren’t relevant to a burden of disease analysis. Important for other reasons sure, but not popping here.

If shit knocks down a third of sick time and deaths, that’s pretty damn good.

And hoping the sarcasm comment wasn’t directed to me, because I don’t know what it would have been in reference to.

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This. Don’t start shit with a grown man if you ain’t prepared to deal with him at his worst.

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Y’all have to read this…

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That is not what effectiveness in this context means. It only means that out of those patients that had underlying conditions and received vaccinations from involved physicians the majority still got infected by a strain of the virus and showed symptoms. There is not even a placebo control due to ethical concerns.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/vaccination/effectivenessqa.htm

The sarcasm comment was not directed at you.

G O O D B O I

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Cool. And I’m familiar with the ethical constraints on human research.

We both agree that flu vaccines only help some segment of the population that recieved them. I don’t think we disagree substantively on most facts. I think we’re in agree to disagree territory on the implications.

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I like Sodom’s Final Fight 1 stage in SF5. It has almost all of the Final Fight 1 characters in the background. Even the Andore family.