The King Thread

I’m really torn on king. He has some really cool stuff going for him and he does great damage but there are just certain things he is lacking in. His footsies are just meh and his mixup game takes awhile to develop in a match. His crossup is pretty good though. I dunno. Its too early to determine his tier placement. I think good zoning characters may give him fits.

Have the other character on your team make up for his faults - tag into king for the big dmg/close range

What are you guys doing on wakeup for King? He seems to be VERY bad in this department. Against jump ins/crossups its not so bad because he can Jag step, shoulder, st.mp, cr.hp, and possibly even counter. But I just get torn up by block strings on the ground. I’ve tried shoulder, and the armor doesn’t seem to help against most block strings since they come out so fast. Counter is tough because its slow and low hits are common in the block strings. Is EX Swing the only answer (since it seems to have invulnerability)?

I saw Ryu roll from a facedown state in training mode, so I don’t think this is correct.

Ex swing is scary though. Hit them twice with that and they may lay off the pressure when you have meter. If they start ducking and your close, lk wizard does a TON of dmg. I can’t tell you how many matches I finished with that already because I’ve had opponents too scared to stand.

But yeah kings anti air game is pretty solid.

Pretty much sums it up. He’s really not very good against a good zoner.

But no good option without meter, huh? I’ve yet to find one sadly…

One thing that kind of bugs me is that because of negative edge, I’ll have someone in a block string with 2 cr. jabs, then move the joystick to back so I can do HCF+K for his wizard, but if I do it to fast it will still detect the jab punch as being held down and releasing jab causes the arm combo to come out instead and I’ll get punished hard. I realize this is me doing the input too fast, but still annoying.

I was thinking this had something to do with input shortcuts (why are they back again?) but yeah they are annoying for me too.

I know its early but i think thats the case. Hopefully time will prove me wrong. I played some sets with marlin pie last night. he was using Rufus and Lilly. dive kick pressue from both had me burning meter for counters…alot. and he adjusted to all of Kings stuff after a few matches. i dunno i feel good players will adapt to his mixup game quickly

Normals into jag step is gimmicky, u wont get away with that more than once. guile, ryu and sagat, and sim do a good job of keep king away so youll need gimmicks to get in on them aside from punishing a mistake.

he needs meter to put the fear in opponents and im 50/50 on whether he’s a good point character since he needs meter to be effetive. maybe with the right gems he can be a good lead off. im having a lot of fun in the lab with this character though

Sorry if this is really basic, but I’m having trouble doing the Jumping Knee. I keep getting jump instead of the knee. Any tips?

Just keep practicing. The knee isn’t that hard to do, but the problem isn’t the knee. The problem is his utility outside of combos. He is basically a sitting duck when people are constantly pressuring you. It’s exactly as hold dat has stated.

At this point I think Gief is a better pick than he is just due to the reversal.

Can anyone tell me which one of his light attacks has the most frame advarntage on hit so I can use it to hit confirm

Crouching Light Punch is +3 on block and +7 on hit
Standing Light Punch is +2 on block and +6 on hit.

Having some issues with following Convict Kick with DDT. Is the timing strict on it and I just need practice or does it only work with the ex version?

Don’t mash it. Hit the 2nd K when you see the little ‘explosion’ when he kicks them.

thanks

Thanks so much :wink:

Could you tell me which one of his light attacks has the shortest start up or are they all around 4 frames?

No problem
King’s Light Attacks are all about 4-6 frames of start up.

What are u guys using a AA? RPB I just too slow outside of combos. No idea if it has good priority though.

I have to agree I have no idea what to do on wake up most of the time.

cr.lp is by far King’s best light attack.