The Inevitable Street Fighter V Story Thread: ARCADE EDITION!

[Daemos]

I wouldn’t count on Akuma til S3. I doubt we will see Gill before SF6.

Q is actually secret boss material too I think.

The more I think about it, the more the more I like the idea of Karin’s tournament in the aftermath of ASF as the setting for arcade mode. With several secret bosses for flavor.

[PoisonKiss]

Have Karin as the “final boss” ala the ring match in CvS2 arcade, but get 2 layers of secret bosses. Candidates are Urien, Oro, Bison, Necalli, Akuma, and Gill.

This would be good, actually, like Chizuru in KOF 2003.

[Doctrine_Dark]

We’re down to the final EX characters. It happens to be the two mysterious Cycloid weapons.

Cycloid Beta AAC:

The close combat weapon, who had been released into the fight in order to hunt Cycloid- γ. He appears featureless and is depicted in textures without polygons. Whereas γ can use the same finishing moves of other characters from ther series, β command list of finishers also consists in this fashion. Similar to γ, it seems he was originally a prototype character used for motion checking.

Cycloid Gamma AAC:

The weapon who is being pursued by Cycloid – β. He is depicted only as a wireframe model who needs to evolve by absorbing the techniques of other martial artists. By its nature, the finishers of other characters in the series are equally available to it. It was originally made for motion checking during the development of the game. It was probably the prototype for the other characters.

As we can see, both were weapons created to mimic the abilities of others. Gamma actually needs to absorb the techniques of others in order to improve, while Beta doesn’t seem to have the same requirement. Beta was also programmed to find and terminate Gamma. Their design seems to originate from the same source, so it seems strange why one would be built to destroy the other. Maybe we’ll learn why.

Cycloid Beta/Cycloid Gamma EX Ending:

A pair of mysterious Cyborgs suddenly appeared. What is their true nature? The only thing certain is that they’re combat weapons capable of absorbing the techniques of martial artists. Will the “true warrior” be the one who will stop these advanced combat machines? Or will it be the one who has mastered the Surge of Murderous Intent?

Both share the same EX ending. No one knows what their real purpose is or why they even exist. Their uncanny ability to absorb and use the techniques of other warriors seems to be quite troublesome, though. We see that Akuma is mentioned as a possible solution in handling these dangerous weapons. I’m betting the “true warrior” is most likely referring to Ryu.

Cycloid Beta EX+ Ending:

Beta, the mysterious cycloid who suddenly appeared. A close-quarter combat weapon that analyzed, studied, and assimilated the fighting patterns of its opponents. His actions are determined solely by his program.

“TARGET MUST BE NEUTRALIZED”

Beta’s described as a weapon that just happened to appear and seek Gamma out to neutralize him. We don’t know if Beta was created by Barba or if someone else used Barba’s technology to create Beta. Since Gamma is Beta’s target, and Gamma was created by Barba to be used for some unknown intention that didn’t align with his (Shadaloo’s destruction) own, it’s possible that Beta was created by Barba to right to ship, so to speak. This is another one of those things that comes down to interpretation.

Cycloid Beta EX+ Alpha Ending:

Spoiler

http://i.imgur.com/6enAngw.gif

Some Superman shit.

Cycloid Gamma EX+ Ending:

Gamma, a weapon developed by Barba, Pullum’s father, with the intention of demolishing a certain criminal empire. It is not known how he came up with the technology for Gamma while he was being kept under close surveillance and house arrest. Regardless of the fact that it would be used against his own will…

So Gamma was created by Pullum’s father to take down Shadaloo. Interesting. We know that Pullum has some relatives apart of Shadaloo, so it seems as if her father wasn’t a fan. Surely someone with the capability of creating an intelligent weapon like this would be scouted by Shadaloo. Bison loves surrounding himself with anyone of value. With the way “used against his own will” was mentioned, it seems as if there’s another party calling the shots. Barba vanished at some point, prompting Pullum to travel the world searching for him. There’s no telling if he left on his own, was kidnapped by Shadaloo to build newer weapons, or kidnapped by a third party for other sinister reasons.

Cycloid Gamma EX+ Alpha Ending

Spoiler

http://i.imgur.com/QEFqU4u.gif

Beta’s comin’ for ya. Run, Nigga! Run!!

That’s it for the EX+ cast. The EX2 and World Warrior characters will be the focus this week. Hopefully we’ll start getting the EX2 profiles as well.

[Daemos]

Before Seth, there was Cycloid.

[The_Shakunetsu]

He went maskless as his default in Deadly Alliance and it’s his story costume in MKX. Scorpion human look is his story costume in MKX.

but when they did crossovers and reboots the best choice is still the mask version because it’s the memorable pop culture identity of subzero.

Have Karin as the “final boss” ala the ring match in CvS2 arcade, but get 2 layers of secret bosses. Candidates are Urien, Oro, Bison, Necalli, Akuma, and Gill.

Agree the best arcade mode was CVS2 it was fun having secret challenger and bosses

Necalli, Juri, Viper* and Nash is best for secret challengers… my default boss would be a powered up version of Fang that is somehow been alive after the story mode…

Secret Bosses would be…

Bison… to reveal that he did survive but not to mean he is defeated from finishing the mode.

Urien… to finding whereabouts of Shadaloo Experiments…

The story simply takes place in within the story mode timeline but the matches is loosely base on story mode events because of random encounters and confrontations.

[list=1]
[] 6 random characters
[] Secret Challengers
[] Q as a default bonus like lance/knight in fighting layer.

[] Mini Survival Match with 3 rounds but one life gauge against 3 random dolls
[] Boss fight
[] Secret Bosses…
[/list]

A Infinite V-gauge and EX-gauge for Secret bosses and Secret Challengers

Overall 10 battles… together with secret boss and secret challengers

Endings would be just arts like KOF98 or MVC2 for default boss fight…

Endings for Secret Boss fight have art and texts information about past activities of Shadaloo or Illuminati depending whom is confronted either Urien or Bison.

It’s not to move forward* other than a loosely based story mode that is turned into a arcade mode that would reveal bison did exist after the story mode events and their is another threat organization that is unknown.

[Daemos]

I agree with most of what you said @The_Shakunetsu but I would ensure that the arcade mode takes place 4 to 12 weeks *after *the end of ASF.

1- Random
2- Random
3- Random

Bonus Stage 1 (Total a car)

4- Random
5- Random
6- Random

Bonus Stage 2 (Fend off a swarm of Kanzuki Ninjas)

Secret Challenger (Conditional Requirements) -

Urien - To keep the Illuminati’s foot in the door. Help tie him in with Chun-Li.
Q - If he makes it in.
Oro - If he makes it in.

7- Rival Battle - Variable

8- Boss - Karin

Secret Bosses (Conditional Requirements) -

Bison - To give us an even more ultimate battle
Necalli - His feasting isn’t over it seems and the stench of fighters has attracted him once again.
Akuma - If he makes it in, but I have my doubts because of Tekken7.

[The_Shakunetsu]

I do believe in akuma and sagat in the latter part season because of the fan demands but as a spectator for akuma and sagat as someone Ryu is to meet both not a dominant figure in the story of SFV.

[Daemos]

I don’t think Akuma x Ryu needs to be revisited until after SF3:3S. After SF4, both characters went on to grow and develop their skills in different ways for different reasons. Narratively speaking, I’d only revisit Akuma x Ryu after Oro trains Ryu, which would take places many years after SF3:3S.

I would love nothing more than for Sagat and Ryu to meet up again at this point in the timeline. Both of them finally free of the demons that began gripping them by the end of that fateful fight in SF1. I would say that this encounter is narratively one of the most relevant and important for our leading man after ASF.

[Cestus]

1- I don’t think Akuma x Ryu needs to be revisited until after SF3:3S. After SF4, both characters went on to grow and develop their skills in different ways for different reasons. Narratively speaking, I’d only revisit Akuma x Ryu after Oro trains Ryu, which would take places many years after SF3:3S.

2- I would love nothing more than for Sagat and Ryu to meet up again at this point in the timeline. Both of them finally free of the demons that began gripping them by the end of that fateful fight in SF1. I would say that this encounter is narratively one of the most relevant and important for our leading man after ASF.

Absolutely agree on both

1- This is correct. Akuma should keep going down his shitty SNH path until he reach his almost-demon status. On the other side, Ryu after Oro will get the power-up he need to clash with Akuma at the same level.
Ryu will be stronger than Gouken is ever been, and Akuma will be in his most powerful version ever been

2- I will like see Sagat returning as a ridicolous powerful char (not Bison level, but very high and without ki “trick” to defeat him).

This is a fight where both can face each other without bullshit.
Ryu moved over SNH
Sagat moved over revenge

The training in mountains Sagat is doing during SFV can be the excuse to justify both a power-up AND a less shoto moveset

As i said many times imho Tiger Uppercut is the move that has to go, to make Sagat look less shoto as possible.

Also as story it make sense, as TU is Sagat’s salty butthurt way to try to copy/defeat Ryu’s shoryuken… and it’s weak that the greatest attack of a martial artist like him is just the copy of somebody else technique.
I will like if he develop a new ultimate attack, something very muay thai style… my pick will be something like that

Also give me this shit as command throw
P version

K version

http://i.imgur.com/yzgERzF.gif?noredirect

[Daemos]

@Cestus Word to yo momma!

To symbolize Sagat overcoming vengeance, he should definitely lose Tiger Uppercut - a technique he developed from his hunger to defeat Ryu. I might be in a minority on this but I also think he should regain his pupil (Not Adon) to symbolize his regaining of his humanity. SF5 has already taken liberties to show the passing of time and character development, so I feel these two changes fall in line with this trend and make sense.

[Cestus]

@Cestus Word to yo momma!

To symbolize Sagat overcoming vengeance, he should definitely lose Tiger Uppercut - a technique he developed from his hunger to defeat Ryu. I might be in a minority on this but I also think he should regain his pupil (Not Adon) to symbolize his regaining of his humanity. SF5 has already taken liberties to show the passing of time and character development, so I feel these two changes fall in line with this trend and make sense.

I don’t like the art style itself, but i can see SFV Sagat with this expression

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/streetfighter/images/d/d9/Character_Select_Sagat_by_UdonCrew.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20091113010442

[PVL_93_RU]

Scorpion and Sub-Zero are just as ironic as Ryu and NRS change their designs every game. Superman had his fair share of costume changes. Let’s not pretend Ryu’s pop culture status is the reason to not change his look.

Scorpion and Subzero has been known to be ever changing design with covered faces. They were iconic only for their colors and unique signature moves(Get over here and Freeze) or attacks unlike Ryu that is the reference icon of many 90s fighting games.

To be fair, every single MK character changed design since MK1. For example:

Sonya - Mortal Kombat 1

Spoiler

http://i1069.photobucket.com/albums/u479/cb0363/Sonya_zps26005597.png

Sonya - Mortal Kombat 3

Sonya - Mortal Kombat 4

Sonya - Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance

Sonya - Mortal Kombat: Shaolin Monks

Sonya - Mortal Kombat

Spoiler

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/np7/char/mk9/sonya-mk9port.jpg

Sonya - Mortal Kombat X

Spoiler

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/mortalkombat/images/a/ad/Mortal_kombat_x_ios_sonya_blade_render_3_by_wyruzzah-d8p5ysb.png/revision/latest?cb=20150415164356&path-prefix=ru

Midway/Netherrealm Studios is actually the only studio that keeps updating the designs of their characters from game to game while keeping some basic things so that a character remains familiar, and I like that. The series never grows stale, they don’t play it safe, and the roster remains recognizable thanks to the traits that they earned over the years (like Sub-Zero is blue, Scorpion is Yellow, Lui Kang is the Chinese Dude, Jax is the Bulky Black Guy, etc)

Capcom should take notes and be more creative, really Street Fighter V was the only time they actually bothered to update the characters’ looks in the 30 years that Street Fighter existed for

[FengShuiEnergy]

Sonya’s outfit in MK9 reminds of the Juri fans that wanted “censor less” Juri in SF5. I’m still lost as to why they wanted that.

[YagamiFire]

Sonya’s outfit in MK9 reminds of the Juri fans that wanted “censor less” Juri in SF5. I’m still lost as to why they wanted that.

One argument I could make is that the color balance of her outfit is UTTERLY borked by the slap-job censorship Capcom did.

Now, even without the censorship, the stupid, garbage costume would STILL be garbage but it would be balanced visually better. On a shear visual-design level I HATE the black cover-up job on her and would prefer it be undone.

In general, however, that costume is complete ASS and it’s a sign of how terrible much of Capcom’s design work has become since the new-age of SF4

[Doctrine_Dark]

http://i.imgur.com/pSukz22.png

Cycloid Beta was *clearly *a Ryu fanboy. Need to work on those arms, though.

[Hawkingbird]

Sonya’s outfit in MK9 reminds of the Juri fans that wanted “censor less” Juri in SF5. I’m still lost as to why they wanted that.

One argument I could make is that the color balance of her outfit is UTTERLY borked by the slap-job censorship Capcom did.

Now, even without the censorship, the stupid, garbage costume would STILL be garbage but it would be balanced visually better. On a shear visual-design level I HATE the black cover-up job on her and would prefer it be undone.

In general, however, that costume is complete ASS and it’s a sign of how terrible much of Capcom’s design work has become since the new-age of SF4

Judging from concept art modern Capcom has come up with great designs. For whatever reason it’s usually the lame ones that end up being chosen.

[MercutioX]

Are there any plans to update the lore/story doc with the sources of the original Japanese texts?

[Cestus]

Tomorrow special preorder colors!

New colors headed to Street Fighter 5 tomorrow? Footage from New York Comic Con...

Will buy Bison, Necalli, Fang and Karin

[YagamiFire]

Sonya’s outfit in MK9 reminds of the Juri fans that wanted “censor less” Juri in SF5. I’m still lost as to why they wanted that.

One argument I could make is that the color balance of her outfit is UTTERLY borked by the slap-job censorship Capcom did.

Now, even without the censorship, the stupid, garbage costume would STILL be garbage but it would be balanced visually better. On a shear visual-design level I HATE the black cover-up job on her and would prefer it be undone.

In general, however, that costume is complete ASS and it’s a sign of how terrible much of Capcom’s design work has become since the new-age of SF4

Judging from concept art modern Capcom has come up with great designs. For whatever reason it’s usually the lame ones that end up being chosen.

Indeed. The problem seems to be at the approval level. Too much attachment to trends and humor over actual design quality.

[Cestus]

Sonya’s outfit in MK9 reminds of the Juri fans that wanted “censor less” Juri in SF5. I’m still lost as to why they wanted that.

One argument I could make is that the color balance of her outfit is UTTERLY borked by the slap-job censorship Capcom did.

Now, even without the censorship, the stupid, garbage costume would STILL be garbage but it would be balanced visually better. On a shear visual-design level I HATE the black cover-up job on her and would prefer it be undone.

In general, however, that costume is complete ASS and it’s a sign of how terrible much of Capcom’s design work has become since the new-age of SF4

Judging from concept art modern Capcom has come up with great designs. For whatever reason it’s usually the lame ones that end up being chosen.

Indeed. The problem seems to be at the approval level. Too much attachment to trends and humor over actual design quality.

This

They just need to headbutt the marketing dude

Also they need better 3D modeller or more harsh art director

And no Kiki for Alts, let Bengus/Ikeno/Akiman/Kinu do it

Then we’re good