I used to request a cyborg monitor boss like in SF4 in capcom forum during the early trailer release and speculations…
Something like a how doom bots to doctor doom, and with a persona like the NEST Bosses of KOF series that doesn’t matter if dispose.
But the moveset i wanted it to be changing within the round like unknown of tekken tag… but it turned out to be like SFEX’s cycliods and Tekken’s Ogre.
My thoughts when Seth appeared in the first time in the internet, He was a MASHUP of fans ideas and request from thread/topic wanting Gill and other SF3 characters.
Nothing beats Alpha 3’s arcade mode where you get to fight a lot of bosses/rivals and get story bits from out of those fights. The only thing missing was character-specific winquotes.
I hope that Bison’s “death” in the Story Mode meant that we’re getting a new proper villain in addition to the Illuminati. Like, I did like Seth as a concept and as a character (although I hated the “I HAVE THOUSAND SPECIAL MOVES” shtick Capcom gave him), and literally the ONLY problem with him was that he was ultimately made Bison’s bitch
While I’m here, I just was at Nakayama’s (the “Shadaloo Operative”) twitter page and it you ever wonder what Haggar and Poison’s moves were going to be in CFA, wonder no more. (Also in Japanese, but I wouldn’t mind translating for those who want to know).
@TrueBackLash I have watched a complete playthrough of chunli pachinko that is somehow deleted in youtube from where i screenshot the reiko mary pic years ago, i guess it is still somewhere in nicodouga. the left videos in youtube were trimmed. i have also posted a final battle video of chunli to bison earlier in the thread. too bad i can’t understand japanese.
I thought Seth sucked bad, i was feeling like “this shit replaced M. -fucking- Bison?”, i find it so bad to be almost offensive
Discover that on reality it ever was Bison’s puppet bitch was probably the best thing SF4 ever did imho
It’s main chara design fault was that the whole concept of lab-created puppet that rebel and claim to be individual/“human” was awesome, then the execution totally ruin it
I can say that 3 points in particular make him shit: chara design, stage, style
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[*] Design: For somebody that claim to not be a lab freak creature, fight naked it’s not the best first step lol.
I know Urien/Gill do it, but in theyr case it’s a link to classic greek visual universe, olympian gods perfection etc
In Seth case made only him look like #679 rubber lab freak with no personality… he’s not even the first SF white rubber monster (Twelve is) lol.
Actually they should have him pushing even too hard his human/civilized “cosplay”, as way to take distance as possible from other clones (look like them should be totally unacceptable to him)
I will have even accepted him get synthetic hairs (maybe a classy, kinda antiquated style) in a pathetic attempt at take even more distances from other bald puppets
First snob concept was in the right direction
Also original white-pink based Seth (that remained in official game lol, just to show how random SF4 ingame artworks was) was way better than final white-fluo azure, feel more organic and menacing
[*] Stage: Stage problem is similar and totally linked to the chardesign above said point.
It don’t want be considered a lab freak and where you fight him? In a whacky shit colors cartoon lab. Capcom pls.
THIS is the kind of vibe Seth stage should have give
Dark and serious, but just not as empty and flat… make it full of art (example classic statues, architecture decorations, books), to push the concept of him trying to over compensate his lack of individuality surrounding himself with human culture
Think something with that vibe
Maybe not as bright and overdone as the third, but you get what i mean.
First got the vibe, second probably it’s the closest to what i mean, just a lil bit less wacky
[*] Style: His basic style idea was even good. We know that shadaloo had cyborg and scientist take every possible data on best fighters since SF2tAM… so Seth being kinda the sum of all that martial archive it’s cool.
But they should have took a less whacky road on selection, example booms, evolved srk and chun’s kicks where cool… but see him SPD gief style or stretch Sim punches was a little ridicolous.
Imho another thin is that they should have pushed a little more on total unique moves that maybe hint at his datas without mimic characters… think a throw where he just grab enemy head, lift him and then electroshock the fuck out of him… it look nothing like a Blanka’s move, but you get that probably come from his datas.
Also, and probably his weakest part, dude totally sucked at Ultras… i mean, reduce-size ray move that suck opponent in your stomach-ball, then washing machine him, then shoot him against the camera? WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK.
Same for U2, it was just one ridicolous-tier less bad.
As Boss (or pretender) he should have at least an Ultra (possibly U1, the “official” one) that express the character spirit, in Seth case he should have get something like that
I’m not saying identical to these, but with a similar “like a fucking Boss” vibe
Seth totally lacked it
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Again, good idea for a potential Great SF Boss able to stand side by side with Bison/Gill… but terrible result
Name: Cammy
Height: 164
Weight: 61kg
Blood Type: B
Birthday: January, 6
Country of Origin: UK
Favorite things: Cats
Dislikes: Anything that catches her eyes when she’s in a bad mood
Fighting style: Delta Red assault Martial Arts, with Doll Arts added
She’s an enhanced soldier, having had her body remodeled here at Shadaloo,
but was rescued by UK Special Team Delta Red.
While being supported by the Delta Red teammembers,
she goes through her life.
She cooperates with Karin Kanzuki to once again destroy Shadaloo,
but is suffering the agony of having to fight the Dolls, her past associates
now brainwashed and reduced to murderous weapons.
I haven’t even gotten started yet, I’m all good with you finishing up. Besides I know you’d do a better job that I would (my “method” is recognizing certain kanji and move inputs and using google translate for the rest).
I actually wouldn’t mind seeing that, I’m certain I’ll never get to play the game.
I like that she can have quite the temper. Makes her all the more human and prevents her from being some weird broken doll like Rei Ayanami in Evangelion
Her having a country listed probably means what some others suspected about Decapre - that it maybe is meant to signify where they were to be deployed.
“She’s an enhanced soldier, having had her body remodeled here at Shadaloo” This stuck out the most to me. Is that just an error or are they implying now that Cammy wasn’t just cooked up in a Shadaloo lab?
Also, this question now is making me curious. In universe, was it Delta Red that gave her the name Cammy? As far as I know Cammy or any alternate spelling of it doesn’t go with the Doll naming scheme. Was she just called Killer Bee?