FSE Juri would probably at least rank as high as SF4 Ryu who singlehandedly beat Seth. What’s interesting about her is that she can simultaneously be of one of the strongest and the weakest characters of the game thanks to that eye of hers. One can argue that one good blow to the face could defeat her, but that would be difficult to achieve for most Street Fighters.
Just a disclaimer, the Udon comics have zero tie-ins to the SFV game. Any connections should be considered coincidental until actual confirmation.
But for me, I am one of the very few people who actually love and care about the Street fighter story and characters. I have every comic and manga to date, including all of the Udon ones.
I’m particularly excited to see how Street Fighter Unlimited is gonna play out. While it may not be canon to the games, it certainly gives the characters and story some depth.
[details=Spoiler]Ryu fighting the SNH and fear of destroying his friends has something he’s always struggled with. But to see Sagat train with him and have him think that there was always a demon inside him, just not willing to admit it, that just makes things very interesting. you always see Ryu as this main protagonist, the good guy with an inner struggle. Having him maybe come to grasp that the SNH could be his true nature just makes his story more intriguing, but it draws me into thinking about his story from before, and how that all relates.
I get this feeling that there are gonna be two arcs: One with Ryu trying to find his answers about himself and the SNH. The second about Shadaloo. i feel there is gonna be more focus into that plot in the next issue. but having Chun-Li being tied up in the end inside Shadaloo’s headquarters (or wherever that was) was very unexpected, but also exciting. So many ways this can be played out. So many questions: What’s gonna happen with Chun-Li now? Did she let herself be captured on purpose? I feel we’re gonna revisit the whole Chun-Li revenge against M. Bison and Shadaloo story again. But that’s all speculation until the next issue anyways.[/details]
overall, art was good, story has got me hooked. I doubt this is gonna give us any insight to the actual SFV plot or story mode content, but it’s nice to think about it, maybe find some connections and speculations.
Is it (the eye) really that unstable? I didn’t dig too much in Super story (endings and that’s about it), but it definitely looks like a fatal flaw. Less powerful fighters than her with the eye “on”, but experienced/skilled enough could at least get a hit in there, so she doesn’t look that impressive from that point of view. Then again, they would have needed to know about the eye weakness in the first place.
Ahh, that’s good to know. So since you have some knowledge on the previous entries…
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The beginning was a flash back as in was in a previous comic correct? Also is Bison really gone? who do you think was the impostor at the end?
I agree the story was really good, I can’t wait to see where it goes from here.
[details=Spoiler]The last issue that Udon released (Super Street Fighter Volume 2 Hyper Fighting), Ryu succumbs to the dark hadou and becomes Evil Ryu. He gets the dark power suppressed by him (thanks to Gill), but it still lingers. So yes, it’s a flashback to the previous comic.
And is Bison really, **really **gone? how many times can you kill the dude? He comes back every time. I mean, Akuma kills him in the end of SFII and TAH-DAH, he’s back in SFIV. Heck, He was killed in the end of SFalphaIII and he’s still survived.
However, the way he was presented. And one of his quotes was “Running shadaloo since bison’s untimely demise is so taxing”. Now given that the person saying this was wearing Bison’s clothes makes me suspect of an imposter. maybe Seth from SIN? All speculation. But there is neutral interest as to why Vega and “Bison” has interest in Chun-Li.[/details]
Juri pretty much lives with this risk/reward kind of augment. It’s not like she has a choice. Without the Eye, she’s a weakling. With it - she bodied 15 fighters all by herself, without it even being powered up to 100% level
I don’t think it would be a total defeat for Juri if someone managed to extensively damage her FSE. Juri isn’t solely reliant on her device like Seth is, and although it would probably provide a major advantage to her opponent it’s not like she’s isn’t already a skilled fighter without it. Juri without her eye would probably be just as effective with her skills as Sagat is without his eye. The difference being that one is trained with ki extensively, and the other achieves ki manipulation through artificial means. If someone like Dan or Sean were somehow by a chance of luck manage to cause her FSE to malfunction it still wouldn’t be a clear victory for them. They would still have a champion caliber fighter to deal with, just without the hax.
In the UDON comic, it states that Dhalsim saved Ryu from the “Shadowloo Island”. Since the locations given in Alpha and SF2 are in/around Thailand, I think that is referring to SF4. When you fight on the “Secret Labratory” stage, the marker goes somewhere in the Pacific and says “Unknown”.
And Ryu is going to a house in that comic. We know 3 things about that person:
-They knew/trained with Gouken longer than Ryu
-They’re in Japan (going by the architecture)
-They have a settled residence where they are willing to meet and train Ryu.
With this info, I think he’s coming for RETSU.
It’s hard to tell. Boss tier? Her rival match with Bison involves him attacking her from behind, and they talk like if it was a common thing in shadaloo. If anybody here read DC’s new 52 The Ravagers, that’s kinda how I see Juri going up the shadaloo or S.I.N. ladder. We just don’t know enough about her. Hopefully SFV’s story mode will offer some more meat, and no more “hey, you look interesting, let’s fight!” But I think being one of the younger fighter she still has room to grow.
I also hope they don’t try to make Ryu into a Goku. I want to see the equivalents of SnH from the other Asian countries.
Nash is still boss though
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That’s like the Virtua Fighter anime, Akira getting so full of himself.
Thing is we don’t know what Juri’s natural chi levels are, but I am willing to bet that the FSE allows her to manipulate levels of chi far beyond what is humanly possible for her (and most Street Fighters but a handful). At merely 25, she is able to do things only the upper echelons of Street Fighters can do. I’m sure she is an excellent world class fighter without the FSE otherwise she wouldn’t have been chosen for the experiment. I just don’t see her being able to generate the chi levels we saw with her experience and fighting art.
Without FSE, she is at Karin or Cammy’s level at best IMO. Both fighters trained extensively all their life just like Juri, so it makes sense for them to be around the same tier level.
The comics follow a different continuity from the official series.
As of SF4, Bison was only ‘killed’ twice. Once at the hand of Rose ‘many years’ before SF4 (referring to Alpha 1/2 ending most likely) and once at the end of SFA3/SF2 as seen in the Aftermath video. In the official continuity Bison is not dead. Even before SF4 was released, Capcom Japan at one point stated that Bison/Shadaloo are alive during the events of SF3. It remains to be seen what happens.
In the Udon continuity, Bison is dead. Killed at the hands of Akuma and everyone and their mother. I’m curious to see where Udon take this ‘shadowy Bison-like figure’. They will likely revive him at some point to keep in line with the official timeline I think.
I’m hoping this is the last time we have to deal with Ryu’s problem with E.Ryu. Its getting really stale.
There is no indication that Evil Ryu is still a thing. The new trailer doesn’t support the idea of Evil Ryu either, it’s just an effect.
The very existence of Necalli makes characters like Evil Ryu redundant. Since he fills the gap they left behind without being a ‘clone’.
I’m just really tired of the whole Ryu/E.Ryu/Akuma plotline. Let’s give them some else to do, other motivations, other objectives. Or in E.Ryu case, his termination…
You might to actually watch the Juri OVA. You put your foot so deep into your mouth that your toes are wiggling out of your ass right now.
Edit: Just read the subsequent posts. Juri isn’t some simp. She was a Taekwondo prodigy as a child. The reason she’s so dangerous with the FSE is because of her martial arts talent. She’d be a SF level fighter without the FSE.
I found the SF Unlimited comic to be stale and boring. It was just a generic ZOMG Evil Ryu will kill everyone! stupid fantasy moment and generic exchange between Ryu & Sagat. Not compelling at all. This would never get someone that isn’t a big SF fan already to pick it up. Compare to the first issue of Kanzaki’s manga that established Shad, established Ryu, set up an actual conflict, developed Ryu (with an assumption we know nothing about him), and had Ryu fight Balrog. THAT is a good issue of an SF comic. This was a mediocre modern comic that was decompressed with a big part of its content not even actually happening. Ugh.
Thumbs down.
I know I actuall waste my time, with translating the dialouges.
Want some wiki notes instead?
Juri and Cammy in the VTOL:
Cammy catches up just as it takes off, and after a brief skirmish, Juri pushes a gurney carrying Juni into Cammy and off the plane.
In SFIV:
Dispatched to investigate, Cammy then enters the recently announced S.I.N tournament, where she swears to get revenge on Juri for the dolls who she considers her “sisters.” She does encounter Juri again in the tournament and wins the rematch.
After SFIV (Bison):
Standing over the helpless Seth, he is suddenly confronted by Juri, whose plan to have the two destroy each other failed, as Seth did not put up enough of a fight. Juri threatens M. Bison, who is unimpressed, and though the resultant fight (if any) is not shown, both seem to survive and are seen later.
If the encouter happend Bison didn’t even get a scratch, he just walks later with Rose out of the ruins.
Sometimes I’m surprised that people still say Cammy isn’t a strong fighter.
It’s just this little things:
-Cammy shares the same DNA with Bison.
-Bisons scientists created her. They made adjustmeants Bison wanted.
-She is unnatural durable. Broken bones heal withing 3 days. ( Viper broke her arm in the first SFIV Ova, the Juri OVA happend ~ 1 week later)
-She actually has Psycho Power, but isn’t able to use it,because of a little gadget inside of her Body.(which can be removed via operation)
-Is actually immun to damage taken from Psycho Power
-Rose mistake her once for Bison, because Cammy had the same strong Psycho Power as Bison.
-Can keep up in terms of speed with both Ibuki and Guy.
-Is above average smart
-Her daily training is brutal.
-defeated Bison in Alpha2(Alpha Bison is stronger compared to SF2 and 4 Bison)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbrWjHudG_k
Yes this actually happend:
Cammy wins her battle against M. Bison, but is hit by a bolt of electric current and knocked down. Once again she is brainwashed to erase her memories of whatever discovery she made during her journey.
-And she’s able to kick some trough the roof of a train with ease.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-KVW0wVT08
What makes her look weak:
-She rushes into enemys if she can’t see a danger (like Viper in the SFIV OVA,we saw what could happen)
-Handicaps herself.
-Takes the security of her friends over her own.
-Don’t want to become her former self again aka Killerbee.
Now I’m more interested where the Dolls are coming from?
Bison might have take them back before he defeated Seth. This would also explain why he rather gave Guy Rose back, the Dolls must have been in the VTOL.
I hope SFV explains this a bit.
I don’t mean to jump off topic, but I wanted to show everybody why Gouken banned Ryu and Ken from using the Shoryuken.
https://youtu.be/qe72eAZsA5c
Cammy was a secret character in Alpha 2 Gold. I don’t think she’s meant to be canon in that game. Especially with that ending, which seems like a pretty convenient way to say “Don’t worry, none of this matters in A3 guys!”
Cammy in A2 is canon IMO, just like Ingrid, Eagle, Yun, and Maki are Alpha 3. Her appearance in the game foreshadows what was to come in A3 (The doll program). Her ending isn’t farfetched too, Bison likely tested the dolls himself or by someone he trusted to see how lethal they are.
This doesn’t mean that Cammy can take out Bison 1v1 (or literally a whole country), or that she knows how to use Psycho Power, let alone that she is immune to it. No one is immune to Psycho Power, not even Bison himself.
Yeah, at best Cammy is just more resistant (or immune) to the deleterious effects to the body of using Psycho Power (at least at the levels Bison uses it anyway)