King_D
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Just use the ball of ur thumb to hit mk than slide it down while at thew same time pressing the tip of ur finger down all it takes is practice no matter what controller. I just started using stick in july and although there really isn’t a big differnce pad is easier. Most things seem easier to do on pad cuz u don’t have to move as much but stick is more acurate, but w/ sf4 new scrub friendly system I don’t think it matters much. And I actually have a more consistent time pressing 2 buttons on the face of a pad than on a stick. And u don’t need to map buttons just practice hitting two buttons at once, no shortcuts I think if anything mapping buttons would hender people.
tali
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kara throw for ps3 controller users
for all the ken players that use the default controls on a ps3 controller, here is how to sort of kara throw. since trying to kara throw by hitting “O” and square and “X” is rather hard to do, the best way to do it is my using R2 and grab, which will kara the thunder kick and throw. it isn’t as far as cancelling the step kick but is the best alternative. good for ending a blocked combo like cl.k,cl.p,cl.p or just taking a few steps back on their wakeup and then doing it. after perfecting the timing in training mode it helps alot online. so its forward+R2 (little pause) “square” + “X”
Vilt
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Kara throwing with step kick is not that hard on pad. Just learn to roll your thumb really.quick.
i tried this before. but the forward step kick has such a hugeeee range i’d rather just practice that one even though its a bit tougher to do on ps3 pad
The distance with HK isn’t big enough to really use it IMO, use MK step kick.
I think I have a pretty good setup for it. Make ‘‘St.Lk’’ Throw. Which means, the X/A button will be the throw button, and B/O button is still of course the Mk. Its pretty easy to do it with 2 buttons that are close to each other.
Don’t worry, this won’t affect Crouching Lk’s, nor will it effect combo’s. The only thing that I have to sacrifice is crossup Lk tatsu on wakeup / on the ground vs Chargers, and no one uses st. lk with Ken anyways.
G77
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Bryanv2,
If you are using your lk button for throw and feel like you are missing out on the grounded lk tatsu’s, just remember that you can still negative edge it and/or hold down lp during the recovery of a previous move to stop the throw coming out when you press your lk button for the tatsu.
I used to do the same thing but after getting a stick, I decided to learn to do the Kara properly because I didn’t want to miss out on Ken’s st.lk (it;s just as good as Ken’s cr.lp really and very useful for Option Selecting stuff) and grounded lk tatsu any more.
Hope this helps,
I’ve had enough of MvC3 now and I’m thinking I might get back on the SSF4 scene.
If it’s died off too much (and judging by the Ken forum and how quiet it is, it looks like it has), I may well move back to my FPS’s again. MvC3 is just not as much fun for me I’m afraid, (I feel dirty saying this, but it’s just not my cup of tea.)
Peace,
G.
thebox
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I know noones posted in this thread for a while but I felt it worth mentioning that you’re sacrificing half of your kara range if you cancel with thunder kick instead of step kick. This is significant for me at least because when you cancel with the overhead after some block strings you won’t push forward far enough to connect the throw. As a pad player I have to recommend that you spend an hour or two in training mode practicing the finger slide technique, once you get that down practice getting it out immediately after a block string. Also, mapping throw to your controller is gonna come back to bite any of you guys who try to enter a tourney in the ass because having throw mapped to one button is usually banned in the rules. Just a heads up. But anyway, I have to say that learning to kara throw with step kick is significantly better and being able to execute it immediately after a block string can really mindfuck anyone who isn’t an extremely good player. Even just being able to empty jump into kara on people who aren’t anti airing well is worth learning before you get the block string kara throw down. Think about it in steps while you’re learning it.
Cool, I think i’ll try it the old fashioned way first… O, square and X all at the same time right?!
your supposed to do O first then the rest, but you can just press them at the same time and you’ll get it often enough
when you go to do it though i find it easier if i have the joint of my thumb on circle so its on there first then actually pressing square and X
I tried to do it in battle and it was pretty difficult. Is there another EASIER way to kara throw?
if you mean without using r2 then i don’t know. you could practice by making your block strings shorter to just get a range of a normal throw then kara throwing and once your confident trying longer strings
I’ve just gotta practice the timing of it and get comfortable with the inputs.
Thanks.
no problem i’m glad to help a fellow ken player.
Since I play on the PS3 for controller (regular default)… I use Square+X and then HK (R2). I’m trying not to use this method much…cuz I’d rather use MK (circle) than HK. Little hard to do on controller… Would use my arcade stick but I just at playing with it.
i made a post a little farther up of how i do it, it seems to work most of the time for me since the way circle is positioned the joint area of my thumb when i hit them together hits circle while the upper part of my thumb presses x and square so circle ends up first 85% of the time for me.
Ahhh that’s a pretty good idea. I never thought of pressing circle first, then square and ‘x’. Guaranteed that will help me more. Kinda jumped pages in this thread n’ didnt read em all. But I will try it that way. Will need to practice it more.
i’m still pressing the buttons at the same time basically (MK comes first in a kara throw)and only using one finger and only using my thumb like how most do it on a pad, but my thumb is positioned a lot closer to the right stick so when i go to press square and x i don’t really press circle the joint in my thumb lays on it really and since it’s closer to the edge of the pad it ends up first. i’m just saying this to make sure you understand what i was saying, your message kind of made me feel like i gave you the wrong idea of how i do it.
