I’m down. I’ll give you a call Elliot. D you coming? Need to get our games on.
I love it. I want to say something really intelligent about how time at the clocktower seems to just pass by; but by god do I ever love patios.
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wow geese is retarded. his hands have hit boxes on double reppukan? wtf.
Apparently I dont post enough or at all…so here…
Elliot I may be down, Ill get in touch with you if my drinking plans fail.
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Ahmed…you know what time it is: [media=youtube]7n3T3twA4D4&feature=related[/media]
Next time Clocktower happens, give me a shout.
Thats all folks!
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Wow, this guy is even more annoying than me! :looney::looney:
Not really, but close. Why not just post under your real account? It’s not as though we don’t know who you are.
this email is hilarious
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That shit was funny. I’m pretty sure I know who that is based on feel but I’ll keep it down and let emotion direct blame discussion ala T8 (wonder if I’ll be condemned immediately again…holy shit…).
Where’s Viet_Bomb damnit! I will never forget that Tails picture joke…oh my god 
Khiem: where’s the response?
it was two words which i bolded at the top.
fraud
dan
@TxsJohn: lol fuck i want a trolling account too, that shit made me cry I laughed so hard.
@Khiem, seriously? HIV causes AIDS and Magic Johnson is the only cure.
@Jay: PM me your email address of some way I can send you those pdfs
Oh shit…wow did I do well to miss that…
That’s a pretty funny response. Doesn’t seem happy about the fact he has to shut the fuck up about it.
There’s a lot more on this btw. Deusberg pointed out the holes that allowed for everything to be thrown in the pile but there’s many other apparant streams (like a virus).
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I’ll be down for some 3s later tongith around 8-9pm
good times @ clocktower last night.
too bad those videos don’t work khiem, i was starting to get interested but they all quit 10 minutes in. o well, I’ll read the papers.
but ya, 3s anyone else wanna play?
edit: where is my ju rep!!??
D & Jon:
I dont work tomorrow.
I want to come by and get some work done. But if you are not getting up until 6 pm then forget it. The latest i want to start is like 11 am, not PM,am, you know when the sun is out, daytime.
let me know. If not ill do other things.
On a more serious note,
I think AIDS denial is kinda ridiculous, Khiem.
Duesberg was challenged to infect himself (by Dr. Robert Gallo, the co-discoverer of HIV) with HIV and pussied out (claiming he’d need to seek approval from regulatory agencies.)
Oh, and how’s this for irony?
Also the very positing of a recreational drug use / stress hypothesis is kinda borne off old research (you know, when AIDS was supposed to be a gay/black disease.)
@Ran:
I’m up early yo, I’ll try to get Dee in this time zone.
i will call you tonight when im done work and we figure a time out for tomorrow.
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There’s obviously a lot supporting the claim…
Dr. Gallo is a joke. I mean his work is pretty standard government drone shit and you should find out why he’s the “co-discoverer” of HIV…he’s a fraud.
Deusberg theory was was on cosntant and progressive immune damage. Drugs were used as a North American example because they destroy your immune system, drug use was rampant and the growth coincided with the HIV infections (which he believed where signs of a depleting immune system), unlike AIDS patients (which have had a near straight line rate since the beginning).
Seriously, you should look way more into this - if you’re open to it. This isn’t some random idea from a few people (like propaganda sites constantly suggest - you have to love the constant slander as a means for defense…). There are thousands of people in the field who have put out incredible information about this. From Nobel Prize winning scientists to governemnt AIDS campaign workers.
You can’t simply dismiss an entire piece of work due to some discrepencies. Not only is that essentially negating everything, but the facts that were used to lead to a theory are still facts. Deusberg was pretty much the world leading retrovirologist until he stated that Gallo’s work was fraudulant. He threw away an entire career due to his stance of what he believed to be true. I will take his words with MUCH more weight than an FDA drone.
Those links alone shed some light but the big picture is much more complex. Personally, Deusberg’s theory had some ground (and considering the definition of AIDS, very well could be a part of it) but the majority of scientists who speak out about this have much more insight in regards to possibilities.
The US governments claim and stance on the issue is laughable… just the simple logic behind the absolution of antibody test->toxic drugs and the ridiculous definition of AIDS is beyond sketchy.
this is curious:
i’m not a scientist.
here’s what i know: my friends with HIV died. my friends without HIV did not. my friends with HIV that got on the new drug regimens after
’96 are still alive. my friends that did not are dead.
it comes down to a bad case of who you gonna believe: HIV denialists or your own lying eyes?
dan
On Apr 23, 2008, at 8:33 AM, Khiem Forsythe wrote:
> Hey Dan,
>
> I know you’re busy and all, but I’m really curious why there’s so many
> AIDS groups around that preach HIV=AIDS and so few people out there
> who are aware of the different perspective? In your Nov. 29th 2007
> column you even allude to the dangers of HIV (not directly supporting
> HIV=AIDS, but doing little to open peoples eyes to the potential
> fallacy of said belief). To me informing people of this perspective
> should be of utmost importance; yet somehow all the mass media of
> today seems to choose to seed a false belief. It really hurts me to
> think that there are thousands of people out there taking drugs to
> solve problems they don’t really have. What’s your take on the media
> system of today? Have you ever considered doing an article to inform
> people of such ideas? Is this subject really too controversial for
> your column? What’s the best way to spread the word?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Khiem Forsythe
> Tel : 613 237 8226 ext 227
> kforsythe@voir.ca
I also think that the power of other STDs and malaira and TB and all that to the immune system shouldn’t be taken lightly. combine that with drug use or malnutrition or starvation and GGPO.
I wonder what the differnece in life expectancy of an impoverished person with malnutrition and HIV and one with HIV is? probably a pretty substantial differece…
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That’s deep. He’s totally correct. Which is why logic and intuition are all you can go by - don’t use your eyes (dear GOD) but your brain and your mind.
Khiem, I’m telling you, keep looking - there’s more to look into about HIV=AIDS. I know you can understand the literature out there pretty well - compare everything you can and remember the answer somewhere in the middle between the two sides.
Totally. There are soooo many factors…in the end we are looking at immune deficiency and how it comes to this. What we do know is that everything gets wrapped up into a billion dollar package of HIV=AIDS for horrible reasons.
While I hold absolutely no illusions that AIDS has not been tremendously politicized, I am dubious as to why, for instance, Duesberg would not prove himself correct?
And why, specifically, is Gallo a fraud?
I don’t dispute that a lot of AIDS treatment may in fact be considerably less effective than accredited (not to mince words or anything.) But honestly given that my field specialty is not in the natural sciences I’m just going to read a bunch, cock an eyebrow and inquire as to what some would-be-Doctors I know think about it.