The HoN/DoTA Thread

Razor, Batrider, and Tauren are all imba.

That being said, I’m looking forward to new updates

I like the new razor incarnation, i find him powerful. Just get adjusted and see how he is better than the older razor.

does anyone play on garena?

People start idling in #srkdota again, stop being pussies.

Also, Death Prophet carry is the funniest carry in the game besides possibly a fat Magnus carry. Watching Krob run around while the opponent’s base is getting fucking wrecked is always good for a laugh.

imo.

Am i right concerning Tauren’s item build?

Arcane ring, Bloodstone, Refresh, bottle… I know BF’s are good on him, but i find these 3 to be his initial items. Arcane ring for the mana, Bloodstone for the HP/Mana boost and regen, then refresh for the double combo + damage, and hp/mp regen. I would get BF after Refresh…

Wow I never really thought about Refresher but now that you mention it, that does seem like the obvious choice. 70% of max HP gone, super imba. Just played a 15/2/17 Batrider game. Went BoTs, Shivas, Sheep. Worked out really well, slow them with Shivas then the fire shit while they are taking extra damage from napalm is pretty ridiculous.

imo.

If BF = Battlefury, then just…no. Battlefury is a farming item. To make the best use of it, you get it early on. Getting a farming item late game is just silly. So get it as a first/second item, or don’t get it at all.

Most common build I see is bfury/refresher.

ya, that’s the reason why i see refresher as a core item for him. His AC->STUN-> ULTI is a very strong combo on it’s own (think also the combo’s added from your other team mates), with refresher you can double it. But first, a well mana pool is needed, so i think arcanes and bloods are needed… so, at the moment i see Arcanes, Blood,Refresher, Phase is his rushed core items… I do think Phase should come after you’ve completed the 3.

I do predict some unfavorable comments towards bloodstone, but i do feel that it is needed.

Bloodstone is the easiest item to get that provides the HP and Mana concerns, so it helps him in his HP and his potential to spam that AC -> stomp.

I don’t think BF should be targeted, IMO. I don’t see it as one of the 3 rushed core items. I seriously think that before you go refresher, you must go bloodstone (order being arcane ->blood/Refresh -> blood/refresh) because the HP/mana boost benefits more. That AC plus a quelling blade is already a good farming strat so the only thing i see great about BF is the regen and damage mostly (i guess that it works good with his 3rd skill is also a factor. The BF after refresh was not for the sake of having farming power just the damage and it also works well with his 3rd skill. Contrary, i do see it to become very redundant after, so most of the time i don’t bother to get it.

So the build will go as Phase, Arcanes,Blood, refresh, bottles and TP’s

Try using Eul’s as a core. The static link is in effect even when they’re in the Midwest.

Then try it on yourself with the link on for the lols. You won’t be disappointed.

I just learned that when you have armlet activated on sillybear’s pet, it doesn’t do any HP degen… =O

Is it me or does Troll seem extremely god damn weak now? Like, I can see him being a great 1v1 hero, but in team battles/pushes he seems absolutely worthless due to the nerf/change of his passive attack speed buff.

I think I’m banned from US East…

lol

Troll has always sucked. DotA has no room for heroes that can’t contribute anything for 40 minutes and then try to carry. I am looking at you Anti-Mage.

imo.

Is this fuckin true?

God I hate that fucking bear in the hands of a good player…

^_-;

Euls on razor is just so unfair.

Stopped reading after not seeing dagger in there.

IMO, it’s just you.

TC doesn’t need Dagger, just use his image to hit the Stomp.

imo.

tc not es

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Why dagger? AC has such a high casting range that you don’t need to chase dying retreating enemies through the hills. Just cast an AC. I did forget Phase boots on the list, i think it’s good for him to because it provides armor and TC is a fat ass.

Arcane and Blood seems to be redundant, because the mana is solved with just one of these items. So it’s like you don’t need a blood because you already have an arcane (or vise versa). Contrary, i want my AC to be available during early game because of the many uses. AC is a long range killing weapon, that you rob kills from a far, sometimes as a Pseudo ward, and it provides great farming power. So why go Bloodstone next? Well, it’s just for the HP properties, the MP properties is just a luxury bonus addition in my view - By this, it’s obvious that your mana supply will always be in use and you HP is alright now.

Refresher on TC is just maxed out IMBA. One combo alone deals so much in team clashes, what more with the ability of casting it Twice?

So at the moment, i do see these items to be best for him. I know more use BF, but hmmm…

Blood/BF/Refresher sounds good (probably better too some) but Arcane is just great on early game, i like having the AC nearly constantly available… and that’s what arcane provides at the early - mid game. While perserves are attainable in early game, it doesn’t secure the availability of AC like Arcane.

Arcane/BF/Refresh: Hmm… not bad either, you have better farming ability and it’s an easier build, and it does better damage, but the HP properties seem to be weakened by this before the late game. Bloodstone does provide better regen as the charges number up, and you also get the HP boost.

So right now, i like how Arcane, Blood, and Refresh work on him. :slight_smile:

haha, oh i thought es

to be honest i dont have too much experience playing TC but I don’t like the thought of arcane on him.

I dont like arcane on hardly any heroes actually cept omni and maaaybe tiny and es, but prefer bottle on these 2 instead.