thks for the answer oilforthewin, i have some few
1)can hakan oil parry a whole ultra: like yun’s ultra 1 or cody’s ultra 2?
2) also, is the coward crouch punishable by SPD, throws, low attacks, ultras?
4) I cant EX oil slide across the map, I always stop half-range.
3)is oiled hakan best character? lol
thks again
@okkoe11even:
I will update this post, time after time.
- He is imo in general a strong character now. The character works this way. Strong oiled up and dry weak, still able to get a momentum change quite good when dry. He has options and tools, while oiled, which are great and could make him the strongest character in the game. There in the end only character called Hakan, but oiled up, he is tremendous.
4)You have to be oiled first at all. There are also different versions of this move, depending if you press a punch or kick button as a followup. Let me quote from ZentraediAce92:[details=Spoiler]
Now here is when I begin to question what I’m seeing and how it could be applied-
-Hakan’s oiled up EX slide has a variety of properties based on what you choose to do with it:
+If you mash the oil up followup, he will only travel half screen
+If you mash the body splash followup, he will go full screen, but you are NOT allowed to FADC the frames it makes contact on (tested with dummy on all block and Hakan in opposite corners)
+If you don’t mash either followup, he will go just shy of full screen, yet you ARE allowed to FADC the frames it makes contact on (given you move forward slightly as from full screen it will wiff on medium sized characters like shotos); also, his body will awkwardly slide in a standing position pushing the opponent and you further forward causing some interesting situations.
+His speed is also altered based on which of these options you choose
And to top it off, using the EX slide dry works in the same way except all distances are about halved (need to recheck this).
His other slides, though their distances are not affected, their speed however is, when you choose to mash or not mash. I’ve accidentally caused a number of strange interactions thanks to my sloppy inputs and the direct effects causing my opponent to wiff their counterattack or not be hit at all when it normally would have ticked for a meaty slide.
[/details] I think everything is here explained.
xebo
1976
what about the oil follow up to the slide? are there any situations where you should use it (getting out of the corner?) or does the guaranteed oil after the press make it redundant?
So uhh, no talk about ultra Hakan? My first thoughts now that I’ve had hands on this game.
The c.mp cancellability is nice and s.mp recovering faster makes s.mp links easier. One new thing is that without oil he can actually tick into his SPD this time around without having to walk forward first. Tackle being safer is a huge plus and you can still hitconfirm it.
I haven’t really put his nj.mp into work yet but I remember a few times in the past that I wished it had the same properties as j.mp. It still does 80 damage too. +10 damage on air throw feels pretty redundant.
c.lk can be linked into itself or s.lp now. I rarely use c.lk instead of s.lp and this change still doesn’t give me a reason to. The link to s.lp is one frame and linking it into itself is pretty useless. The best thing about this is the +1 on block now, IMO.
W Ultra seems totally pointless for Hakan outside of maybe a few select match-ups. The damage drop is just too huge. I’d personally only pick it for mu’s that are very hard to land an ultra in (for me I’m thinking dictator, always was a hard match for me). That way you might get more changes to land it and maybe be able to take to the offensive. The comeback mechanic value is gone with the damage, though.
The only thing I feel pretty salty about at the end of the day is his j.mk buff. “We’re giving you a cross-up” they said. This damn thing is probably harder to land a cross-up with than j.hk. I wonder if anyone actually tested this one properly.
As you have to land on top of their head I also only managed to get 4f moves after success which ain’t bad since he can combo from s.lp but I didn’t test taller characters yet. If that’s what I’m getting on Ryu and Juri I wonder if that cross-up gives me anything on, say, Sagat.
I’ve yet to try s.hp antiair buff. Dunno what to think about f+hk unoiled buff.
There is talk about Ultra Hakan, just the people are writing now in the Facebook group for Hakan.
I dislike the idea, but if that’s what it takes to get to read some thoughts about ultra Hakan… I guess I’ll be asking for an invite.
I played him only for a few hours, I can´t really tell much about him.
He is of course better than his AE2012 version, but the crossup buff is really disappointing, hard to actually make it crossup. What else? The idea behind the CR LK buff is to have an low hitconfirm from a safe low hitting button. Otherwise, I think that you said everything else I could say for now.
I forgot to tell it, but even in the beta builds of USF4, the crossup was really bad.
Just read the unlisted changes thread and apparently c.lk buff does not apply to chained c.lk’s when oiled. Lazy…
It’s a better button for crouch teching now. Something I didn’t really think about before. Sent the FB group creator a message too.
EDIT: Oh, and Oil dive apparently doesn’t fly over characters as much anymore. I think the general wish was for it to do so more 
According to Ultradavid doc file it does.
The entire game is a mess.
According to the games files
and my own testing just now it doesn’t. I couldn’t get a chained c.lk, c.lk to combo into a jab or c.lp even once out of about 50 tries. I’m hitting a single c.lk to s.lp or c.lp about once every 3 tries.
Also plinking c.lk, c.lk dry is pretty easy, but I can’t do oiled up c.lk, c.lk chained into another c.lk plinked.
Ramma
1984
Hakan’s new outfit in all 22 colors (numbered):
unwnd
1985
Wow these forums are pretty dead huh? Anyway I was watching one of nouensan Hakan’s videos and I noticed he plinked f.lk with hp, like this is probably common knowledge for Hakan players but you can plink f.lk with hp and mp because if you get f.lk + hp/mp at the same time then f.lk still comes out and not either f.hp or mp, I was wondering if anyone knows why this is?
It was also discussed at Reddit:
I have no idea, why it is possible. Maybe F+LK has higher priority over the hp or mp?I don´t know, but maybe ask Eternal or someone else.
Yeah, these forums are dead. The boys are in the Facebook group.
xebo
1987
It would be nice for some discussion to come back here. I was on fb and in the group but i needed to take my privacy back 
It’s happening/has happened with alot of character specific communities on the SRK forums. For some reason everyone starts migrating to a FB group and the forums on here slowly bleed out. I don’t even get the reason behind it, don’t see what’s wrong with just staying here and discussing the characters. Not exactly big on FB either. Nothing to be done about it I’m afraid 
well my hakan bible is still active, i update it every now and then if i have the time to test out setups and confirming them to it.
but yea i think everyone is using fb discussion so if your getting into hardcore hakan then ask for an invite.
OTHERWISE please learn the basics first using all the resources here in the srk forum, really really really annoy to see ppl asking noob questions on fb page… ;p
dang, why is this Hakan subforum so dead mang? its been months since people posted up in this bitch.
unwnd
1991
On the off chance anyone actually sees this post I was wondering why when I attempt to Oil up it occasionally fails and I just get like st/cr.lk etc. instead of oil, i’m doing this in training mode with inputs on and there is no errors in my execution, like 1 in 8 times i just won’t get oil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPE29g6Bknw creazy stupid hakan comeback with guile theme lol check it out
xenwall
1993
I agree! I’ve been out of the game for a long time and was looking to get back into it with my old alt but daaaaaamn this forum has some cobwebs on it. Guess I’ll have to look elsewhere.
